Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[VillaTim]

Plenty in the match thread said it's on too.

They are also wrong

In your opinion.

[AV84]

Saw a stat earlier that said we haven't won the league game after a CL game since September.

[Meanwood Villa]

Felt very briefly like it was going to be a romp but turned into a backs against the wall job and fair play to the lads for actually seeing it through for a change. You'd be pissed off as a Brentford fan not getting anything from that.

[astonvilla82]

Scrap VAR and we can moan about Manchester United and the Liverpool's of this world get there mate in black giving them every dubious decision and then moan about why we don't have VAR

[Somniloquism]

Saw a stat earlier that said we haven't won the league game after a CL game since September.

3-0 Young boys and then 3-1 v Wolves. The other one we should have won was 2-0 Bologna followed by 1-1 with a last kick of the game equaliser for Bournemouth.

Some on here were staring Brentford hadn't won in 7 so good job they are playing Villa to fix that. I wonder if on their site they were going "Villa haven't won after Champions League matches, bring on Brentford to fix that".

[Percy McCarthy]

I was arguing with some numpty on twitter the other day who didn’t accept the provable fact that Konsa and Mings are our best defensive CB partnership

Jesus, I didn't realise you'd taken this crusade beyond these shores.

Hiring a billboard on the A34 might mean you don't need to take so much time over it?

I wouldn’t bother if there were not plenty of people stating the Villa defence equivalent of ‘water is not wet’ over and over again, along with shit like ‘clean sheets don’t matter’. And I think when some absolute moron is parading his stupidity by declaring Disasi as a disaster, I should enjoy these moments.

[Somniloquism]

Yes, but if players are in offside positions, what are the back line supposed to do? The ball can cannon off a defender playing an opposing player on. The goal against Norwich yesterday was a case in point.

Well that is irrelevant as you can't be offside from a throw in. But assuming it was a freekick, it would have been given as offside as he was offside from that anyway, as per the clarification when Mings played it to the Citeh player a few years back.

[Percy McCarthy]

Saw a stat earlier that said we haven't won the league game after a CL game since September.

3-0 Young boys and then 3-1 v Wolves. The other one we should have won was 2-0 Bologna followed by 1-1 with a last kick of the game equaliser for Bournemouth.

Some on here were staring Brentford hadn't won in 7 so good job they are playing Villa to fix that. I wonder if on their site they were going "Villa haven't won after Champions League matches, bring on Brentford to fix that".

Yeah, the Everton podcasts definitely share that trait with us.

[cdbearsfan]

I reckon that's pretty much universal unless you support a Liverpool win every week type team.

Oh the opposition have won their last ten games? We're bound to lose.

Oh the opposition have lost their last ten games? We're bound to lose.

Exactly the same when an opposition striker can't stop scoring or is in the middle of a goal drought.

[charlatan]

Absolutely mental that we have -4 goal difference and nobody else has a negative goal difference until you get to Everton in 14th.

Even more so that while we've won four more than we've lost and have a negative goal difference, Tottenham have lost four more than they have won but have a GD of +14!

[edgysatsuma89]

I reckon that's pretty much universal unless you support a Liverpool win every week type team.

Oh the opposition have won their last ten games? We're bound to lose.

Oh the opposition have lost their last ten games? We're bound to lose.

Exactly the same when an opposition striker can't stop scoring or is in the middle of a goal drought.

Yeah, I always think this when I read those sort of things.

[Somniloquism]

Small clip of the players with Olsen at the end and used as the thumbnail.

[The Edge]

Small clip of the players with Olsen at the end and used as the thumbnail.

Thanks that's the first time I've seen any of it. Looks like Olsen did really well as did Disasi. I think Ollie looked just off so the right call was probably made in this instance but again it brings us back to when was the exact moment the ball leaves the passers boot because that's the exact moment to judge Ollies position. Great result by the boys and a clean sheet is the icing on the cake.

[Brend'Watkins]

Small clip of the players with Olsen at the end and used as the thumbnail.

Thanks that's the first time I've seen any of it. Looks like Olsen did really well as did Disasi. I think Ollie looked just off so the right call was probably made in this instance but again it brings us back to when was the exact moment the leaves the passers boot because that's the exact moment to judge Ollies position. Great result by the boys and a clean sheet is huge.

It’s not when it leaves his boot it’s when he makes contact with the ball which is the precise moment forward motion is put on the ball. When it leaves his foot a few thousandths of a second have lapsed which could be the difference between Ollie being given onside. But, as has been said it’s not that precise but still far better than not having VAR. I watched a little of the EFL Cov v Stoke earlier. I think at least 2 goals were clearly offside but nothing given or said. VAR isn’t perfect but it’s better than relying on linesmen alone.

[TonyD]

I think the whole offside tech hinges on exactly when the player playing the ball through  -exactly hits/touches/passed the ball through. 
Because if that’s a tenth of second out then the offside lines are not accurate.