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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2025, 11:55:16 AM »
Thanks for the info on him paul e. Feeling a bit more optimistic about him then the article i posted

If he has pace thats great as we desperately need that

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2025, 11:56:50 AM »
Yep a £20-£25m fee on a five year contract is only about £4-5m for amortisation so if we can get some funds together to remain PSR compliant then all well and good.

If we're selling Barry as suggested then him going for £7-8m covers the cost of this for 24/25.

And the next two season in theory as well as Barry's 7-8mil stays on the books for three seasons doesn't it?

Nope I think it’s only booked for the financial year it falls in. But I’m no accountant so…..

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2025, 12:05:19 PM »
Yep a £20-£25m fee on a five year contract is only about £4-5m for amortisation so if we can get some funds together to remain PSR compliant then all well and good.

If we're selling Barry as suggested then him going for £7-8m covers the cost of this for 24/25.

And the next two season in theory as well as Barry's 7-8mil stays on the books for three seasons doesn't it?

Nope I think it’s only booked for the financial year it falls in. But I’m no accountant so…..
Yes the receipt is credited to its Financial year, the outgoing is amortised over the length of the contract.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2025, 12:06:21 PM »
Thanks for the info on him paul e. Feeling a bit more optimistic about him then the article i posted

If he has pace thats great as we desperately need that

Probably not quite as fast as Diaby but not far off, however I think he's quicker over 5yards accelerating away from a player. It's worth taking a look a few highlight reels on Youtube for him.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2025, 12:10:24 PM »
Yep a £20-£25m fee on a five year contract is only about £4-5m for amortisation so if we can get some funds together to remain PSR compliant then all well and good.

If we're selling Barry as suggested then him going for £7-8m covers the cost of this for 24/25.

And the next two season in theory as well as Barry's 7-8mil stays on the books for three seasons doesn't it?

Nope I think it’s only booked for the financial year it falls in. But I’m no accountant so…..
Yes the receipt is credited to its Financial year, the outgoing is amortised over the length of the contract.

See the whole Chelsea situation as an example, in that they are fine as long as they can keep getting £150m per summer for the next few years like they did for Maatsen / Gallagher / Hall / Hutchinson this summer. Then Mount / Ampadu / Loftus-Cheek the summer before.

If we can turn our academy into something generating that sort of money instead of between £10m - £30m per season we can also go out and buy a whole new team each year.

Unpleasant and unsporting though that it.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2025, 12:12:24 PM »
Yep a £20-£25m fee on a five year contract is only about £4-5m for amortisation so if we can get some funds together to remain PSR compliant then all well and good.

If we're selling Barry as suggested then him going for £7-8m covers the cost of this for 24/25.

And the next two season in theory as well as Barry's 7-8mil stays on the books for three seasons doesn't it?

Nope I think it’s only booked for the financial year it falls in. But I’m no accountant so…..

I was thinking that for PSR purposes, Barry's example £8mil would stay on for three years. Malen's example £4mil would be that on the books the first year, 8mil the second and 12mil the third.

 

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2025, 12:15:28 PM »
Yep a £20-£25m fee on a five year contract is only about £4-5m for amortisation so if we can get some funds together to remain PSR compliant then all well and good.

If we're selling Barry as suggested then him going for £7-8m covers the cost of this for 24/25.

And the next two season in theory as well as Barry's 7-8mil stays on the books for three seasons doesn't it?

Nope I think it’s only booked for the financial year it falls in. But I’m no accountant so…..
Yes the receipt is credited to its Financial year, the outgoing is amortised over the length of the contract.

See the whole Chelsea situation as an example, in that they are fine as long as they can keep getting £150m per summer for the next few years like they did for Maatsen / Gallagher / Hall / Hutchinson this summer. Then Mount / Ampadu / Loftus-Cheek the summer before.

If we can turn our academy into something generating that sort of money instead of between £10m - £30m per season we can also go out and buy a whole new team each year.

Unpleasant and unsporting though that it.

If only we could spend what we wanted for a few years to put it all in place.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2025, 12:34:22 PM »
I can't say I've been wowed by what I've seen of him in the past. My gut instinct is that he isn't as good as Diaby. However he scored 15 goals in the Bundesliga last season so for potentially 20m we can't turn our noses up at that especially as we badly need another option on the right.

A very unscientific observation, but I reckon that wide-ish attacking players who do pretty well in the Bundlesliga must be up there with the highest cross-over success rate to the Premier League.

He's the same age as Cunha for example and he's done better for Dortmund than Cunha did at either Leipzig or Hertha.

It interesting as I haven't watched Bundesliga weekly for five years now but my impression has always been its a league with ridiculously high lines so wide players should be staying onside and hitting decent numbers for goals and assists.

A game that always sticks in my mind was Augsburg being 3-1 up at home to Dortmund and still parking their defence on the halfway line so Dortmund pinged a few balls over the top for Sancho and Haaland to run through and they still won the game.

I was thinking that type of game scenario would never happen in the prem but of course know you have the bottom teams trying and failing to play out from the back and gifting goals when leading/drawing that way.

My impression is I don't think he's an amazing player but we never replaced Diaby properly in the summer and he seems to have a similar profile so for 20m or so can't be too sniffy about these deals.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2025, 12:41:56 PM »
Yep a £20-£25m fee on a five year contract is only about £4-5m for amortisation so if we can get some funds together to remain PSR compliant then all well and good.

If we're selling Barry as suggested then him going for £7-8m covers the cost of this for 24/25.

And the next two season in theory as well as Barry's 7-8mil stays on the books for three seasons doesn't it?

Nope I think it’s only booked for the financial year it falls in. But I’m no accountant so…..
Yes the receipt is credited to its Financial year, the outgoing is amortised over the length of the contract.

See the whole Chelsea situation as an example, in that they are fine as long as they can keep getting £150m per summer for the next few years like they did for Maatsen / Gallagher / Hall / Hutchinson this summer. Then Mount / Ampadu / Loftus-Cheek the summer before.

If we can turn our academy into something generating that sort of money instead of between £10m - £30m per season we can also go out and buy a whole new team each year.

Unpleasant and unsporting though that it.

If only we could spend what we wanted for a few years to put it all in place.

Ive always said Chelsea's  success was because when roman came in there was no other individal billionaire owners. If ours were around back then along with various other clubs chelsea wouldnt be the club are now

They have had  a massive head start over most other clubs



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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2025, 12:49:17 PM »
Malen's highlights reel is impressive. Great pace, excellent control and can finish. Basically a replacement for Diaby.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2025, 12:53:36 PM »
His scoring record is really good for a wide player. Given we lack goals and pace, he seems to fit the bill for a realistic signing.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2025, 12:58:12 PM »
Never heard of him but in Unai and Monchi we trust!!

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2025, 01:00:24 PM »
Sounds decent. Even if we don't get him, at least our interest would seem to indicate that we have spotted our failings at the wing position.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2025, 01:06:25 PM »
I can't say I've been wowed by what I've seen of him in the past. My gut instinct is that he isn't as good as Diaby. However he scored 15 goals in the Bundesliga last season so for potentially 20m we can't turn our noses up at that especially as we badly need another option on the right.

A very unscientific observation, but I reckon that wide-ish attacking players who do pretty well in the Bundlesliga must be up there with the highest cross-over success rate to the Premier League.

He's the same age as Cunha for example and he's done better for Dortmund than Cunha did at either Leipzig or Hertha.

It interesting as I haven't watched Bundesliga weekly for five years now but my impression has always been its a league with ridiculously high lines so wide players should be staying onside and hitting decent numbers for goals and assists.

A game that always sticks in my mind was Augsburg being 3-1 up at home to Dortmund and still parking their defence on the halfway line so Dortmund pinged a few balls over the top for Sancho and Haaland to run through and they still won the game.

I was thinking that type of game scenario would never happen in the prem but of course know you have the bottom teams trying and failing to play out from the back and gifting goals when leading/drawing that way.

Given your point though, forward players should turn up and bomb here given the reduced amount of space to run into - but while there are those who haven't had the same success (Sancho? Werner? Haller? Podolski?), the list of players who have adapted really well is (I would guess) better than any other league.

Just off the top of my head - Aubameyang, Son, Firmino, Berbatov, Dzeko, Haaland, De Bruyne plus those mentioned above.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2025, 01:09:58 PM »
Sounds decent. Even if we don't get him, at least our interest would seem to indicate that we have spotted our failings at the wing position.

Also, I can’t see it being an ‘ell-eggs-in-one-basket’ signing. I think we must be after getting a defender in as well.

 


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