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Donyell Malen
« on: January 02, 2025, 11:14:15 AM »
Perhaps time to start an individual thread about him?

This story popped up in the Heil the other day and in the last hour David Ornstein and Percy are both reporting our interest, apparently opening bid of 20m euros rejected but talks remain ongoing.

I can't say I've been wowed by what I've seen of him in the past. My gut instinct is that he isn't as good as Diaby. However he scored 15 goals in the Bundesliga last season so for potentially 20m we can't turn our noses up at that especially as we badly need another option on the right.

Think he was also at Arsenal in their youth team when Emery was there.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2025, 04:16:47 PM by Legion »

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2025, 11:15:55 AM »
Never heard of him but if he is in the mould of diaby im happy

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2025, 11:16:30 AM »
Surely we only do individual ones when we actually sign them or is it as good as done. Until then it is all speculation and could collapse easily.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2025, 11:19:27 AM »
Bit early this isn't it.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2025, 11:19:40 AM »
Surely we only do individual ones when we actually sign them or is it as good as done. Until then it is all speculation and could collapse easily.

The Maatsen and Digne threads just below this one started with agreement or advanced talks. I suspect this one isn't too far from that, just got to settle on the price but clear Dortmund want to move him on.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2025, 11:22:28 AM »
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Aston Villa in talks to sign Borussia Dortmund forward Donyell Malen


By David Ornstein
23m ago
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Aston Villa are in talks with Borussia Dortmund over a potential deal to sign Donyell Malen.

Villa have made an offer for the forward worth around €18million (£14.9m, $18.6m) plus add-ons, which falls short of Dortmund’s valuation but negotiations continue between the clubs.

The Premier League side are looking to strengthen their squad with a versatile attacker and Malen is high among multiple candidates.

The 25-year-old Dutch international, who is contracted until 2026, has started six of his team’s 15 Bundesliga games so far this season and scored five goals across all competitions — including twice in the Champions League.

Malen made four appearances for the Netherlands at Euro 2024, finding the net twice in their round of 16 victory over Romania and starting the semi-final defeat against England.

He joined Dortmund from PSV Eindhoven in the summer of 2021 — scoring 39 goals in 131 appearances and featuring eight times for Dortmund during a run to the 2024 Champions League final, where he was a second-half substitute in the 2-0 defeat by Real Madrid.

Villa are ninth in the English top-flight and next play at home to Leicester City on January 4.

Analysis from Aston Villa correspondent Jacob Tanswell

Villa have been open to signing a multi-faceted forward in January for some time, having been short of an option across the front line since Moussa Diaby’s departure in the summer.

Malen would suit the criteria of a forward, like Diaby, who can operate across several positions such as a second forward and wide player and share the goal scoring burden on Jhon Duran and Ollie Watkins, in turn replacing the goals lost from Diaby and Douglas Luiz last season, as well as Leon Bailey, who has struggled for form this term.

There has always been an internal acknowledgment, however, that any moves will be dependent on the conditions of the deal and if they remain within the club’s financial parameters.

Malen’s career has blown hot and cold
Analysis from German football correspondent Sebastian Stafford-Bloor

Malen’s Dortmund career has been a riddle. Despite more than three years at the club, a consensus has never really been reached on his value. And that’s not a measure of his talent, but his consistency. Malen’s form has always been volatile, with hot streaks melting away as quickly as they appeared.

Over the past year, when it became an open secret that he would prefer to continue his career elsewhere, the relationship between him and the Dortmund fans has been tricky. It’s a further complication to a career that has never really been one thing nor the other, rather a strange blend of the good and bad.

He’s talented and he’s shown that he can be a game-changer at the highest level, just never with enough regularity. The caveat there, though, is that the teams he has played for in Dortmund have often been flawed or in transition — he never had the privilege of working with a coach as permanent as Jurgen Klopp or as ideologically commanding as Thomas Tuchel — so a rebirth in the Midlands is hardly out of the question.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6031589/2025/01/02/donyell-malen-aston-villa-transfer/

Sound like consistency is his biggest issue. Bit of a red flag to me

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2025, 11:23:28 AM »
I can't say I've been wowed by what I've seen of him in the past. My gut instinct is that he isn't as good as Diaby. However he scored 15 goals in the Bundesliga last season so for potentially 20m we can't turn our noses up at that especially as we badly need another option on the right.

A very unscientific observation, but I reckon that wide-ish attacking players who do pretty well in the Bundlesliga must be up there with the highest cross-over success rate to the Premier League.

He's the same age as Cunha for example and he's done better for Dortmund than Cunha did at either Leipzig or Hertha.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2025, 11:25:56 AM »
I thought he was nearer 30 as well so that's a bonus, though I do think I mix him up in my head a bit with Memphis Depay.

I believe paul_e was very keen on us bringing him in a few years back.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2025, 11:27:29 AM »
I can't say I've been wowed by what I've seen of him in the past. My gut instinct is that he isn't as good as Diaby. However he scored 15 goals in the Bundesliga last season so for potentially 20m we can't turn our noses up at that especially as we badly need another option on the right.

A very unscientific observation, but I reckon that wide-ish attacking players who do pretty well in the Bundlesliga must be up there with the highest cross-over success rate to the Premier League.

He's the same age as Cunha for example and he's done better for Dortmund than Cunha did at either Leipzig or Hertha.
Yeah and t be fair Bailey and Diaby have done well.  I think the biggest issue with players like this is they are inconsitent - bar the few world class ones.  I think Bailey benefited hugely last season from being able to play himself into form while Diaby started. 

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2025, 11:34:49 AM »
I thought he was nearer 30 as well so that's a bonus, though I do think I mix him up in my head a bit with Memphis Depay.

I believe paul_e was very keen on us bringing him in a few years back.

Yep, I thought he was perfect for us when we were looking to stabilise into a midtable side. Since then we've improved a lot quicker than he has but he's got serious pace, is a good finisher and can play a few different positions. I'd say he's pretty similar to Diaby but a bit more robust so might not struggle so much with the physical side of the English game.

If something around £20-22m is possible then I think he'd be good value for that.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2025, 11:43:21 AM »
I thought he was nearer 30 as well so that's a bonus, though I do think I mix him up in my head a bit with Memphis Depay.

I believe paul_e was very keen on us bringing him in a few years back.

Yep, I thought he was perfect for us when we were looking to stabilise into a midtable side. Since then we've improved a lot quicker than he has but he's got serious pace, is a good finisher and can play a few different positions. I'd say he's pretty similar to Diaby but a bit more robust so might not struggle so much with the physical side of the English game.

If something around £20-22m is possible then I think he'd be good value for that.

Agreed - will give us a much needed injection of pace in the wide areas and create space for Rogers in particular. And the fee doesn’t present a huge risk, so would be happy with it.

I’d argue we’ve missed Diaby more than we have missed Luiz this season (which I was NOT expecting in August) and he would go some way to filling that gap in the squad.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2025, 11:49:03 AM »
Yep a £20-£25m fee on a five year contract is only about £4-5m for amortisation so if we can get some funds together to remain PSR compliant then all well and good.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2025, 11:49:45 AM »
Good mates with maatsen too apparently  so can see the logic in this as maatsen will be first choice left back in future you would imagine

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2025, 11:51:58 AM »
Yep a £20-£25m fee on a five year contract is only about £4-5m for amortisation so if we can get some funds together to remain PSR compliant then all well and good.

If we're selling Barry as suggested then him going for £7-8m covers the cost of this for 24/25.

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Re: Donyell Malen.
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2025, 11:55:03 AM »
Yep a £20-£25m fee on a five year contract is only about £4-5m for amortisation so if we can get some funds together to remain PSR compliant then all well and good.

If we're selling Barry as suggested then him going for £7-8m covers the cost of this for 24/25.

And the next two season in theory as well as Barry's 7-8mil stays on the books for three seasons doesn't it?

 


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