Newcastle v Villa post match

[Clampy]

Regarding VAR yesterday, I can only presume that they agreed with the red card. If the ref had given a yellow, they would possibly have asked the ref to look at it. It's nonsense if that's how it works.

[aj2k77]

It was obvious to see that his standing leg slid out from under him and affected how he landed with his other leg. It reminded me of the one where Fernandes got sent off when he slipped and his other leg kicked the player which was rescinded. I thought he should have got sent off though seeing as he's a cheating vermin face and plays for ManUre.

[Nunkin1965]

We should absolutely contest that red card. Let’s not be milksops about this.

Contest the obviously correct red card? I wouldn’t have thought it was worth our while.

Well you're wrong because we are contesting it,

When is the appeal heard?

[Rigadon]

Apologies if this has been already posted, but it kind of sums up playing against these niggly wankers.  They are snidey, leave their foot in, wrestle anybody attempting to break away.  And they get away with it time and again. 

It’s like playing against Wimbledon, except they have quality upfront rather than John Fashanu.  If referees did their job this team would be lower mid table, but they never seem to. 

We have a problem playing against teams who bully us.  Spurs did it, and so did Forest. But the sending off completely ruined us yesterday and we were actually dealing with the physical stuff much better. 

I’m not reading anything at all into this result. 

[The Edge]

Apologies if this has been already posted, but it kind of sums up playing against these niggly wankers.  They are snidey, leave their foot in, wrestle anybody attempting to break away.  And they get away with it time and again. 

It’s like playing against Wimbledon, except they have quality upfront rather than John Fashanu.  If referees did their job this team would be lower mid table, but they never seem to. 

We have a problem playing against teams who bully us.  Spurs did it, and so did Forest. But the sending off completely ruined us yesterday and we were actually dealing with the physical stuff much better. 

I’m not reading anything at all into this result.

Scharr is actually looking at where he's planting his boot. Right into Durans goolies. That should have been looked at in isolation and he should of been red carded. VAR badly mishandled that whole scenario. It's either a red for both players or it's a telling off for both players. To single out Duran as the aggressor is patently wrong. Duran and the referee fell for Newcastles game plan and it worked.

[Rigadon]

Even arch Geordie Shearer thinks it was poor decision.  I can’t understand Villa fans saying it was a definite red. It was a shit decision that was made in a hurry by a shocking ref who was influenced by the stadium, bench and Newcastle players who all ran towards him. 

[Villa Lew]

Having watched MOTD now it was clearly accidental, the appeal should be succesful, for those in doubt just watch MOTD.

[Clampy]

I've just seen it back again and from the angle behind, it was the way he put his foot down which made it look maybe worse than it was. Obviously the way their players reacted didnt help.

[Nunkin1965]

Having watched MOTD now it was clearly accidental, the appeal should be succesful, for those in doubt just watch MOTD.

Having seen it again,  I think I’d agree.
I called it a Red at the time but he's been unlucky as he was up against a ref who'd made his mind up instantly.
VAR should at least have told him to check the footage.
Will the thing get overturned though?

[Olneythelonely]

We should absolutely contest that red card. Let’s not be milksops about this.

Contest the obviously correct red card? I wouldn’t have thought it was worth our while.

Well you're wrong because we are contesting it,

I’ll be wrong if the appeal is upheld. I hope I am.

[rob_bridge]

Regarding VAR yesterday, I can only presume that they agreed with the red card. If the ref had given a yellow, they would possibly have asked the ref to look at it. It's nonsense if that's how it works.

Regarding VAR yesterday, I can only presume that they agreed with the red card. If the ref had given a yellow, they would possibly have asked the ref to look at it. It's nonsense if that's how it works.

VAR didn't disagree as it had no grounds too. If the ref gives it red as a violent conduct due to the stamp then unless it shows no stamp then it will get upheld. Not sure I have a problem with that par se.

That is different from Rogers foul v Forest where a review clearly shows penalty - no different to Kane v Netherlands

[LeeB]

We should absolutely contest that red card. Let’s not be milksops about this.

Contest the obviously correct red card? I wouldn’t have thought it was worth our while.

Well you're wrong because we are contesting it,

I’ll be wrong if the appeal is upheld. I hope I am.

Are you sure about that? Because from this and the match thread you seemed to be very happy that Duran had fucked up and all the people that had suggested he may take over from Ollie were proven wrong.

[Legion]

Analysis - Was Duran harshly sent off? - https://www.bbc.com/sport/videos/cvgp3y2gle2o

[RamboandBruno]

Analysis - Was Duran harshly sent off? - https://www.bbc.com/sport/videos/cvgp3y2gle2o

Its a good analysis. I was a bit undecided, but that was actually helpful. I said to my son before the game that Taylor is such a poor ref, so it proved. Yes we were already 0-1 down, but contrary to what a couple of posters on here think, we were playing our way back into the game. That sending off killed us.

[TonyD]

Apparently there was a 20 man brawl in the tunnel at half time.