Will we qualify for the CL?

[eamonn]

Has anyone done one of those simulators to see how many points we'll likely get or even how many points 5th place will need this season? Could it be low 60s? If so, we still have a chance. Rashford and Asensio have been brought in to be match winners for us and I'm confident they will be.

[Rigadon]

I'm not sure about how arsed I am about playing in the Conference League again to be honest.  I know that's heresy for a lot of people, but do the benefits of playing in that competition outweigh the distraction from trying to qualify for the CL again?  Not sure.  Europa League, yes to that though.   

I can't believe you and some others have this opinion about  Conf League. Two things to remember:
1. We qualified for Champ League whilst playing in the Conf.
2. We MUST get used to the drum beat of playing mid week European football so it's necessary that we are involved in any of the 3 competitions. The involvement builds and hardens our squad.
Anyway this "distraction" thing is crap. I am not where it has worked well with successful clubs?
The negative is that we stop rolling for a bit by either losing better players or not being able to add top quality.

Like I said, I know it’s not a popular opinion! I think it is a distraction playing in Eastern Europe on a Thursday evening.  We need to be in Europe I agree, but in CL or if not, Europa. 

[Goldenballs]

From twitter.

With 13 games left to play and 39 points to fight for, here are the average points totals from the last 10 Premier League seasons for positions 5th-8th and what #AVFC require to meet them...

5th - 68pts [30pts]
6th - 63pts [25pts]
7th - 59pts [21pts]
8th - 55pts [17pts]

[PaulWinch again]

I think we can safely say if that played out it’s not going to be better that 7th and that’s optimistic.

[wince]

So if we write off a push this year, and go all out for next year for the league, whats to say that we will be any better?

It is nice being this end of the table than the bottom but is it PSR hamstringing us or is our manager too technical for the players we have? Not criticism of Unai at all but the form has been inconsistent for a year now. We are capable of playing well but where is the fluidity all of the time rather than the ponderous slow play from the back then inevitably gift a goal?

What jars me is the club off the pitch gave it the charlie big bollocks about being back where we belong but we have not shown this at all this season and unless we win the CL (unlikely) I worry about us keeping what top players we have or attracting new players to us.

It is almost futile to compete when the drawbridge has been pulled up but I would love for us to be top 4 consistently. Nottingham are doing what we did last season so will be interesting how they cope next season if they get CL football.

Just really pissed off we cant sustain CL and push higher up rather than getting rinsed by gash teams like Ipswich or Wolves as I thought the days of us being a points fairy were behind us. But here we are again there for strikers on a bad patch, teams not winning for 4 on the bounce or making average players look world class. Just really frustrating as it is proving last season was an exception not the rule and hoping Emery can turn this around and turn these draws into a win as these draws are feeling like defeats and points dropped. Win a few of those draws and the position looks better but we seem to only have a single half in us and concede, we look so fragile.

 

[VillaTim]

Think we will end on 57 points and wherever that gets us.

[RamboandBruno]

Think we will end on 57 points and wherever that gets us.

I think thats probably about right.

[ChicagoLion]

Think we will end on 57 points and wherever that gets us.

I think thats probably about right.

Agree, which represents our points per game ratio this season.
No where near enough for CL and will struggle to get Europa.

[Brazilian Villain]

With 13 games left to play and 39 points to fight for, here are the average points totals from the last 10 Premier League seasons for positions 5th-8th and what #AVFC require to meet them...

5th - 68pts [30pts]
6th - 63pts [25pts]
7th - 59pts [21pts]
8th - 55pts [17pts]

Interesting stuff, but I wonder if 5th (and 6th) totals might end up being a bit lower this season. There's currently not much between 4th and 10th spots with many of those teams taking points off each other.

[edgysatsuma89]

With 13 games left to play and 39 points to fight for, here are the average points totals from the last 10 Premier League seasons for positions 5th-8th and what #AVFC require to meet them...

5th - 68pts [30pts]
6th - 63pts [25pts]
7th - 59pts [21pts]
8th - 55pts [17pts]

Interesting stuff, but I wonder if 5th (and 6th) totals might end up being a bit lower this season. There's currently not much between 4th and 10th spots with many of those teams taking points off each other.

I agree, I think it's going to be on the low end.

[VillaTim]

Nice hypothesis but we would also be part of that logic . We've not done enough all season for top 5 and I don't see it changing .

[edgysatsuma89]

I'm sure BV hadn't thought of that.

[Smirker]

Not unless we win it.

Still think this. Via the league it's gone.

Still this.

[PaulWinch again]

I’d agree - good performance but we need a lot of wins realistically and I can’t see it.

[PhilVill]

No, but we'll win the FA Cup and get in the Europa League. This is our year, 100%