Chelsea 3 Aston Villa 0 Post Match Thread.

[LeonW]

I can see a major summer clear out here. Keep the manager change the players on this one.

[Risso]

Starting with Torres.

[LeonW]

Starting with Torres.

I’d keep him. He’s excellent at what he does.

[steamer]

Along with some of the coaching staff
Who is defensive coach ?
please tell the players, dont pick up the ball and give it to GK
Dont tap the ball back to GK 1 yard away in penalty box
Dont keep passing the ball in front of GK as opposition are pressing.

[aj2k77]

We've still only lost to Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and Tottenham in the league. It's hardly a disaster. The performances are patchy at best, poor at worst. Let's not get too entitled and throw the baby out with the bath water here. The time to worry will be if we are not performing against mid table teams. It's a simple fact, Chelsea are much better than in 2023. Their form in the whole of 2024 is considerably better than ours 60 pts picked up to our 45prs. This isn't a surprise result. Realism shows they are now a better team than us. Maybe our purple patch was 2023 and we are not their anymore. Maybe as some have suggested the team needs breaking up and changing? Maybe we aren't the surprise team and have been found out (lack of pace, high line etc etc)

I have seen what Emery has done since he arrived, it has been miraculous. It doesn't excuse a bad run but you cannot throw the lazy accusation of 'he doesn't know what he's doing'. He does, he's proven it, everywhere. We are just in poor form, losing to teams who are better than us, no lazy accusations of '' he's lost the dressing room''. The teams we are currently losing to are just better than us.

It's pretty obvious we could do with getting back to basics and making the team more difficult to play against and through. How we do it I don't know, I'm not a manager. Emery is and a top one and if anyone will bring us through this malaise it will be him. Let's not fuck things up for ourselves here. A couple of years ago we were getting hammered by Fulham.

[Demitri_C]

We've still only lost to Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and Tottenham in the league. It's hardly a disaster. The performances are patchy at best, poor at worst. Let's not get too entitled and throw the baby out with the bath water here. The time to worry will be if we are not performing against mid table teams. It's a simple fact, Chelsea are much better than in 2023. Their form in the whole of 2024 is considerably better than ours 60 pts picked up to our 45prs. This isn't a surprise result. Realism shows they are now a better team than us. Maybe our purple patch was 2023 and we are not their anymore. Maybe as some have suggested the team needs breaking up and changing? Maybe we aren't the surprise team and have been found out (lack of pace, high line etc etc)

I have seen what Emery has done since he arrived, it has been miraculous. It doesn't excuse a bad run but you cannot throw the lazy accusation of 'he doesn't know what he's doing'. He does, he's proven it, everywhere. We are just in poor form, losing to teams who are better than us, no lazy accusations of '' he's lost the dressing room''. The teams we are currently losing to are just better than us.

It's pretty obvious we could do with getting back to basics and making the team more difficult to play against and through. How we do it I don't know, I'm not a manager. Emery is and a top one and if anyone will bring us through this malaise it will be him. Let's not fuck things up for ourselves here. A couple of years ago we were getting hammered by Fulham.

The problem is we beat 3 of those 4 teams last season in first half. We havent really competed with any of them or given them a game.

Against those 4 sides this year

We have lost 4 scored 1 and conceded 11. I would say those results alone are a disaster.

I agree with your last paragraph though  very well written

[LeonW]

We've still only lost to Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and Tottenham in the league. It's hardly a disaster. The performances are patchy at best, poor at worst. Let's not get too entitled and throw the baby out with the bath water here. The time to worry will be if we are not performing against mid table teams. It's a simple fact, Chelsea are much better than in 2023. Their form in the whole of 2024 is considerably better than ours 60 pts picked up to our 45prs. This isn't a surprise result. Realism shows they are now a better team than us. Maybe our purple patch was 2023 and we are not their anymore. Maybe as some have suggested the team needs breaking up and changing? Maybe we aren't the surprise team and have been found out (lack of pace, high line etc etc)

I have seen what Emery has done since he arrived, it has been miraculous. It doesn't excuse a bad run but you cannot throw the lazy accusation of 'he doesn't know what he's doing'. He does, he's proven it, everywhere. We are just in poor form, losing to teams who are better than us, no lazy accusations of '' he's lost the dressing room''. The teams we are currently losing to are just better than us.

It's pretty obvious we could do with getting back to basics and making the team more difficult to play against and through. How we do it I don't know, I'm not a manager. Emery is and a top one and if anyone will bring us through this malaise it will be him. Let's not fuck things up for ourselves here. A couple of years ago we were getting hammered by Fulham.

Totally agree. Emery will sort it and we’ll evolve again. Just tough at the minute. He’s been a winner almost every single club he’s been at. He isn’t the problem here and has broken ceilings at this club in a tiny amount of time that others have failed to do.

[Risso]

Starting with Torres.

I’d keep him. He’s excellent at what he does.

Unfortunately, we need him to be excellent at defending and he's not, he's dreadful.

[DB]

We have dropped off this season, the squad isn’t strong enough to cope with injuries and playing twice a week vs quality opposition. It’s really showing. How can we sort this with PSR, Newcastle mark II from last season.

[aj2k77]

This isn't 2023 any more. In 2024, you could argue that the only stand out league win we've had was Arsenal away, the others were games we were expected to win against mid to lower table sides. Maybe we've got a bit drunk on the success of '23 and the x amount of home wins on the trot. It was an amazing time but probably with the squad and players we had/have a flash in the pan and unrepeatable. We had no chance to improve the first team in the summer and have had to fight FFP fires. We aren't losing and struggling against lower teams, we just aren't replicating our amazing form against the top teams anymore.

It was lovely having a taste of it, if only for 12 months, but we aren't that good. The best chance we have of sustaining ourselves as a good team is to have a good manager and we do. Anyone who thinks we don't or he's lost his way, well I can't help you there.

[LeonW]

Starting with Torres.

I’d keep him. He’s excellent at what he does.

Unfortunately, we need him to be excellent at defending and he's not, he's dreadful.

He’s not dreadful. There’s no way we’d have finished fourth last season if he was. He can be got at but more often than not since he’s been here he’s been clever in preventing getting into foot races, etc. In a side regularly challenging for champions league football when most of the opposition sit deep, Torres is essential.

[Monty]

Big fan of Torres, and he's not as bad as his worst run of form, and I would like to see how he does with an actual midfield in front of him.

[Clampy]

It was terrible. I honestly can't remember the last time we played as badly as that. There's normally one player who escapes criticism. I can't think of one. That's how poor it was.

[aj2k77]

It was terrible. I honestly can't remember the last time we played as badly as that. There's normally one player who escapes criticism. I can't think of one. That's how poor it was.

Olsen wasn't a hologram.

[Villatillidie25]

That was truly awful. Philogene and Rogers put in two of the most gutless performances we’ve had to endure since the relegation season and the rest of them were just rubbish. Watkins, miss aside, did ok in build up play and Emi, brain fart aside, played alright. Nobody else has anything above a 4 rating.