Spurs v Villa Post Match Thread.

[Villan82]

A player that made 11 starts? Righto.

Moreno?

Well all summer we were being lectured about money being tight, PSR, FFP you name it so surely it's legitimate to ask why we spent £37m on a left back when we had two good left backs and maybe were more in need of a right full back?

[PaulWinch again]

Missing Moreno much more than Luiz. Didn’t give Moreno long enough to come back from his injury.

Should have kept him and spent the Maatsen money on a top notch right back

Nope, that makes absolutely zero sense.

At the moment Maatsen seems an odd signing given what limited cash we had - I think its one for the future + digne's been excellent.

I get the point on Maatsen, but I think that was a case of strike while the iron is hot.

The bit I don’t get is saying we’re really missing Moreno. We’re not.

[Demitri_C]

I think the problem was more we couldnt keep the fucking ball.  Last year we were great at taking the sting out of games by keeping the ball - but we struggle to do that without luiz and kamara.

I dont think some realise what luiz bought to this side. Id take him back in a heart beat

You alone knew the value of Luiz.  If only everyone had your insight, and if the club is reading, you know who to put in charge of future transfer policy.

I suppose they should just close down the forum. None of us should dare have an opinion on the club we support. Let's leave everything to the club

Exactly. Well said 👏

It's just that you're going on and on endlessly making largely the same point.

You then go on so long, you start to contradict yourself. "Palace was this season's Moscow" or whatever it was, followed by how Unai needs to "manage his squad", failing to see the conflict between those two statements.

It's just endless and after about 2 uninterrupted hours of it, it starts to get people reacting because it just drags everyone down.

Yes yes yes, we all get your point(s).

i keep having to mention moscow  asits getting mentioned over and over so i have to repeat the explanation of the comparison. 

I dont know what your actual point is this is a football forum to discuss the game? Ive made various different points today not the same that you are alluding to. Its just having a go . Im not trying to bring anyone down and not looking to argue with anyone either. Im just deeply disappointed how things are going.

There has been negativity and positively tonight. One win in 5 is not good, failing to keep clean sheets in the league is not good and as others have said we havent really started in the league so far. We were flying at this stage last season. Conceding four goals in one half is really bad.

The CL has been massively positive just wish we xould circulate to the league.

You said he needs to manage his squad.

He did this on Wednesday.

You didn't like it and started - ridiculously - going on about Moscow and today being Stoke. Which is absurd on two levels, at least.

You mean - Unai should manage his squad in the way that you would?

And yes, we're all fucking pissed off losing to these twats, but it's one match in a season of 38. We have been beaten 4 at home to these in Unai's time, and even by Leicester IIRC.

We're sixth or wherever, and top of the Champions League, and we're only 9 matches into the season.

Ive already covered this a few times. Let me clarify again. I said rotation not 90% of the side as was the case Wednesday night. We had two senior players JJ and cash on the bench that didnt even get off the bench. What harm would it have done to have ollie and a few other senior players on the bench? When i said rotation im not talking about the level of Wednesdays game. Im talking about maybe two or three for example maatsen kamara and mings for digne mcginn and pau (just an example) Thats a reasonable amount of rotation without going to the levels of Wednesday night.

Its frustrating paulie. We lost 4-0 last season so was expecting we learned from that game but yet again we fall apart against these arseholes (who i dislike more than most teams.  Ive been getting ruined by my spurs mates all day ergh)

For me its not all doom and gloom just yet as your rightly say CL has been awesome (i have stated this today) and still doing OK in league. But we certainly need to improve quick!

1 win in 5 we need to improve here if we want CL again.

[eamonn]

Moreno had another good game yesterday in a side that's ahead of us in the table. Maatsen is getting about as many minutes as Moreno would have done had he stayed.

Easy to say now but for the £35m we spent on a LB, I think I would have kept Alex and got someone to replace Diaby better than Philo and Leon are managing at the moment.

[Percy McCarthy]

How will Percy's Diego v Cash stats be reflected today? When the latter went off, were we losing or drawing?

Not good, but there’s a hell of a lot of credit in the stats bank for Carlos. Cash was good today anyway, Son did fuck all in the first half, as did Spurs in general. At half-time I thought it was going to be a rope-a-dope masterclass like the last two games there.

The only criticism I could aim (partly) at Cash was that between them, him and SJM could have made a better fist of stopping the cross for the equaliser. Similarly, Konsa seemed to be telling Emi not to try and cut it out and Digne didn’t follow his man in at the far-post. But that’s all harsh IMO, because you can often break down goals like that, including the ones we consider brilliant play because we’ve scored them.

So I’ll not be slagging or bigging up anyone in isolation today. We were all shit second half.

[aj2k77]

Put me in a right mood that twatting has. Niggly team full of goofy instagram celebration wankers. And we keep tossing them goals. Hate football tonight.

[Olneythelonely]

For me its not all doom and gloom just yet

Phew.

[Aldridge Villa]

For me its not all doom and gloom just yet

Phew.

Made me chuckle.

[RamboandBruno]

For me its not all doom and gloom just yet

Phew.

Id hate to see it when it is

[Demitri_C]

For me its not all doom and gloom just yet

Phew.

Anything to get your blood pressure down my friend 😘

[itbrvilla]

Clearly missing Luiz and Diaby's goal contributions. Nowhere near replacing them.

[aj2k77]

Diaby's pace in particular. Without him and Bailey we are really one paced. Philogene I understand we needed a FFP fix but he isn't looking like he's going to contribute anything this season.

[Demitri_C]

Diaby's pace in particular. Without him and Bailey we are really one paced. Philogene I understand we needed a FFP fix but he isn't looking like he's going to contribute anything this season.

Dont want to right him off just yet but man he just does not look premier league quality at the moment

He cant even beat a player, loses ball cheaply qnd general overal game hasnt been up to. scratch. Cant see him being here next summer if he doesnt improve

[ROBBO]

Having slept on it i'm still fuming. The one stat i keep thinking off is our shots on goal, apart from the tap in i can't remember one. What's happened to the free wheeling attacking Aston Villa? Europe has gone to our head methinks, the players think they are better than they are, this may turn out to be the result we needed because we have been treading water for some time without really getting punished.

[Chip Butty 111]

15 goals conceded, 2 more than Palace in 17th place, tells you where the problem is. Luiz scored 22 goals in 5 seasons, his highest tally last year when he was the penalty taker. Diaby scored 6 goals. Decent players but not golden boot contenders. Rogers will out score Diaby comfortably. Get organised at the back and we'll be OK.