Summer 2024 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc.

[john e]

Don’t know why people keep comparing him (Felix) to Coutinho
He was injured for more than half the time he was with us, every time he made an appearance it was from injury and he more than often than not broke down again. So he was never really able to get going.

Add to that he was playing in a Gerard team, which everyone knows was as bad as anything even some of our top performers now were crap under him then

And apart from all that I still enjoyed watching the way he played for us he was a bit of quality on the pitch the way he received the ball kept the ball passed The ball was always Class even though he did not make the difference in games the way we wanted

[ChicagoLion]

The Felix  signing is one that has to work out because of the profile he has and because of the impact he will potentially have on the squad positively or negatively.
So of course it represents a big risk , if it does work out it might take us to the next level.

[pauliewalnuts]

Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. It is the risk that concerns me.

[PaulWinch again]

Yeah I’d agree it’d be a pretty big risk.

[Holy Trinity]

If we can get felix for the right price he will be a huge asset.
If we over pay it's a risk.
To turn our nose up at a a player of his caliber would be our Robiniho moment, a true statement signing, he didn't work out for city but gave then pulling power. I cant see how we lose unless one of his legs fall off we should always be able yo move him on all be it at a loss.
I think his problems at Athletico is he's managed by the Argentinian Southgate and he can't work in a hoofball park the bus team. A player like him needs the ball and attacking pressure to showcase his skillset.
Benteke didn't work for Liverpool but for us he was a world beater.
Sometime moves don't work out and I don't think we should judge him on athletico alone.
He did ok at Chelsea and they were a very poor team last season.
Barcelona want to sign him but can't afford him and williams.
But he's not good enough for us?
How far we have come since Ross McCormack and Rudy Gestede

[Dante Lavelli]

Doesn’t the risk reward bit only become relevant once we know the likely fee and wages? Has this been disclosed?

I don’t think anyone is suggesting we match what Atletico paid, but at £40m it might be worth it.

[Holy Trinity]

Doesn’t the risk reward bit only become relevant once we know the likely fee and wages? Has this been disclosed?

I don’t think anyone is suggesting we match what Atletico paid, but at £40m it might be worth it.

Anywhere between 40-50 would be very solid business

[ChicagoLion]

The risk is higher because of the type of player he is ( mercurial might be a good description) and where he plays.
It’s not like we are signing Declan Rice, you know what you are getting with Rice, we don’t with Felix.

[pauliewalnuts]

If we can get felix for the right price he will be a huge asset.
If we over pay it's a risk.
To turn our nose up at a a player of his caliber would be our Robiniho moment, a true statement signing, he didn't work out for city but gave then pulling power. I cant see how we lose unless one of his legs fall off we should always be able yo move him on all be it at a loss.
I think his problems at Athletico is he's managed by the Argentinian Southgate and he can't work in a hoofball park the bus team. A player like him needs the ball and attacking pressure to showcase his skillset.
Benteke didn't work for Liverpool but for us he was a world beater.
Sometime moves don't work out and I don't think we should judge him on athletico alone.
He did ok at Chelsea and they were a very poor team last season.
Barcelona want to sign him but can't afford him and williams.
But he's not good enough for us?
How far we have come since Ross McCormack and Rudy Gestede

I don't think anyone has said he isn't good enough, and the risk isn't just about paying, it is the risk that he may be a bit of a primadonna and disturb the dressing room equilibrium.

[Dave]

Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. It is the risk that concerns me.

But there's no way that one of the potentially best players in the world is playing for us without us taking a risk somewhere though.

We're not buying Mbappe, Bellingham, Osimhen etc, so if we want the best players in the world we need to either (a) buy the ones that nobody thinks are, and turning them into that.

We've got arguably the best goalkeeper in the world in our team because we took a risk on the guy in Arsenal's reserves. Obviously it seems like a no-brainer now, but £20m for a guy who'd spent most of the last decade jobbing around the lower leagues because Arsenal didn't think he was good enough for them was a huge risk. But we took the risk that he was great and it paid off.

Or (b) trying to turn a former "might be one of the best players in the world" back into that. Felix could end up following the Odegaard route of a stalled career and then finding his feet again.

I think it's a risk worth taking for £50m, it's probably not a risk worth taking for much more than that.

[Clampy]

I don't think the fee is the issue. His wages will be ridiculous. I can see both sides of the argument though.

[pauliewalnuts]

I think it'd depend if that were the last 50m in our, err, war chest or kitty or not.

Again, it's not the risk he is not a very good player on his day that nags me, he is clearly a very talented boy.

The risk for me is how he, as a player who attracts tons of attention, and always seems a bit moody, would possibly impact our team ethic.

EDIT I am not against us signing him, I am just pointing out a few concerns.

[Holy Trinity]

If we can get felix for the right price he will be a huge asset.
If we over pay it's a risk.
To turn our nose up at a a player of his caliber would be our Robiniho moment, a true statement signing, he didn't work out for city but gave then pulling power. I cant see how we lose unless one of his legs fall off we should always be able yo move him on all be it at a loss.
I think his problems at Athletico is he's managed by the Argentinian Southgate and he can't work in a hoofball park the bus team. A player like him needs the ball and attacking pressure to showcase his skillset.
Benteke didn't work for Liverpool but for us he was a world beater.
Sometime moves don't work out and I don't think we should judge him on athletico alone.
He did ok at Chelsea and they were a very poor team last season.
Barcelona want to sign him but can't afford him and williams.
But he's not good enough for us?
How far we have come since Ross McCormack and Rudy Gestede

I don't think anyone has said he isn't good enough, and the risk isn't just about paying, it is the risk that he may be a bit of a primadonna and disturb the dressing room equilibrium.

Fair comment.

If it's just the risk people are worried about that will come with any big budget signing. The things we are doing in the background are phenomenal from a money spinning point of view and we are gearing ourselves up for these big budget signings to become our new normal!

[Chris Smith]

I think it'd depend if that were the last 50m in our, err, war chest or kitty or not.

Again, it's not the risk he is not a very good player on his day that nags me, he is clearly a very talented boy.

The risk for me is how he, as a player who attracts tons of attention, and always seems a bit moody, would possibly impact our team ethic.

EDIT I am not against us signing him, I am just pointing out a few concerns.

Reading the Onana interview and the discussions that the manager had with him prior to his signing show how thorough we are in our approach to recruitment. I accept what you’re saying that it is potential risk given his reported history but the rewards if it comes off could be huge.

[N'ZMAV]

Simeone doesn't fancy him - not surprised, as he's a defensive kinda coach.
He flopped at Chelsea - who hasn't?
Didn't workout at a mess of a Barcelona.

So he's not had the best enviornments to progress.