Standard of Refereeing

[cdbearsfan]

Not necessarily. At the moment nearly every goal and quite a few other incidents are checked. You could easily have five or six checks per game. Under this system you might have four. Will be interesting to see how it works, it's pretty much in line with how I always thought VAR should be done.

[paul_e]

Not necessarily. At the moment nearly every goal and quite a few other incidents are checked. You could easily have five or six checks per game. Under this system you might have four. Will be interesting to see how it works, it's pretty much in line with how I always thought VAR should be done.

How good an idea this is relies heavily on how they adapt the idea of "umpire's call" into it.

[Footy-Vill]

V Brighton Official watch

Referee: Stuart Attwell. VAR: Matt Donohue.

Atwell is from Warwickshire
He’s ref twice this season 3-0 defeat to chelsea and the 2-2 v Ipswich

[Footy-Vill]

Not just Atwell but who’s matt Donohue on VAR why no penalty and now a Clear hand ball lengthy check .
At least some balancing after dismissing the pen first half.

[Footy-Vill]

Atwell getting his yellow card quota in.

How has this ref booked 3 villa players?! ...

The conventional way. Held up a yellow card and then wrote their names down.

tbf all 3 were deserved .
However if asking why Brighton didn’t receive more bookings - am much agreements.

[garyellis]

Just watching the Scouse derby plus our match to me underlines the standard is getting worse. It desperately needs addressing.

[brontebilly]

Just watching the Scouse derby plus our match to me underlines the standard is getting worse. It desperately needs addressing.

Seems like the on field and off field referees are back second guessing one another. That Everton one is assault, thug shouldnt be playing again this season. That clown Atwell is looking right at Ramsey's one tonight, shouldnt even need the guy in the caravan to help him out.

[aj2k77]

All time low. There is no common sense involved. It's a series of back coverings going on and interpretations of the rules to cover arses. No one is going to get better until they start admitting fault.

[pauliewalnuts]

That Tarkowski tackle is horrendous.

[dcdavecollett]

Reminded me of Gerrard's tackle on George Boateng back in 2001.

[john2710]

It seems to me the directive is to go with the on field decision rather than get the decision right. If the ref gives the penalty last night, there's no chance it's overturned. If they're going to use technology, at least get the decision right.

Macalister is very lucky his leg wasn't broken. How VAR looked at that & said no red card is staggering.

[aj2k77]

Wasn't Tarkowski part of the thug brothers partnership at Cloggers Burnley under shit house Dyche? Him and Mee chopping people down constantly and getting away with it.

He should have a 3 game ban. An Atwell shouldn't be allowed to ref us anymore, he hates us as much as we hate him.

[LeeB]

Wasn't Tarkowski part of the thug brothers partnership at Cloggers Burnley under shit house Dyche? Him and Mee chopping people down constantly and getting away with it.

He should have a 3 game ban. An Atwell shouldn't be allowed to ref us anymore, he hates us as much as we hate him.

Yep, seems like it's only Dyche-adjacent players that still make this kind of challenge, it's no coincidence.

[Nev]

Ever since the introduction of VAR we have seen endless excuses, chicanery, obfuscating, rule changes, and downright lying in order to justify what was utterly flawed as an idea, never mind it's implementation.

The excuse last night for the challenge on JJ was that there "wasn't enough contact". WTF? How do you measure how much is enough? They made the decision in order to protect the ref and for no other reason. Before the end of the season you will see a Pen where the contact is less. Add this to "phase of play" where no-one really knows when they start or finish, interfering or not (Liverpool's goal last night), the handball rule etc etc.

All hugely subjective so impossible to be consistent.

I can accept a Ref making a mistake, what I can't accept is a third party doubling down on the mistake and that is one of the myriad problems with VAR.

It. Doesn't. Work.

[Somniloquism]

The trouble is the ref told VAR he was booking him for the follow-through after getting loads on the ball initially. With the directive of only sending someone to the screens on a clear and obvious error, how do they send him there to review when he states he saw the follow-through and booked him?

Take last night for example, Atwell told them he had seen both the Brighton and Villa pen appeals and they didn't see anything to state a clear error. However he never mentioned Mitoma's handball in the goal so they could send him for that.

But surely all the ex-footballers who stated it was alright for Lewis-Skelly to go in studs high on the ankle/shin when he is no where near the ball should be fine with the tackle last night only getting a yellow.