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Offline Mister E

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #405 on: February 16, 2025, 05:45:20 PM »
The ref at Liverpool was poor today: 2 penalties awarded, neither correctly; one overturned by VAR.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #406 on: February 16, 2025, 05:49:21 PM »
The ref at Liverpool was poor today: 2 penalties awarded, neither correctly; one overturned by VAR.

Noticeable how he stopped giving Wolves any free-kicks when they got back into it and had Liverpool under pressure.  Carragher's commentary also.took a turn at that point as well.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #407 on: February 16, 2025, 05:54:09 PM »
Another strange one was when he told their subbed player to leave the field on the Witton Lane side, he ignored him shoved past and dawdled over to the other side with a yellow card being waved. The ref not insisting on him leaving the field where he was told is pretty pitiful, no wonder players think they can get away with murder.

I have a completely different memory of this incident! I am pretty sure he shoved past the referee but dawdled to the Witton Lane side as he had been instructed to do!

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #408 on: February 16, 2025, 07:07:22 PM »
Another strange one was when he told their subbed player to leave the field on the Witton Lane side, he ignored him shoved past and dawdled over to the other side with a yellow card being waved. The ref not insisting on him leaving the field where he was told is pretty pitiful, no wonder players think they can get away with murder.

I have a completely different memory of this incident! I am pretty sure he shoved past the referee but dawdled to the Witton Lane side as he had been instructed to do!
It was Omari Hutchinson being subbed right at the end. PeterWithe’s recollection is correct.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #409 on: February 16, 2025, 07:09:20 PM »
Another strange one was when he told their subbed player to leave the field on the Witton Lane side, he ignored him shoved past and dawdled over to the other side with a yellow card being waved. The ref not insisting on him leaving the field where he was told is pretty pitiful, no wonder players think they can get away with murder.

I have a completely different memory of this incident! I am pretty sure he shoved past the referee but dawdled to the Witton Lane side as he had been instructed to do!
It was Omari Hutchinson being subbed right at the end. PeterWithe’s recollection is correct.

Fair enough! The one I remember must have been earlier on in the game, unless I've got that wrong as well. I do have quite a track record for getting things wrong - I blame my age

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #410 on: February 19, 2025, 04:22:48 PM »
Officials for next 3 games
Liverpool Ref:Pawson. VAR: Alex Chilowicz
Chelsea  Ref: Oliver. VAR Paul Tierney
Crystal Palace : Sam Barrat VAR:Jarred Gillet
« Last Edit: February 19, 2025, 04:27:03 PM by Footy-Vill »

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #411 on: February 19, 2025, 04:26:46 PM »
Alex Chilowicz:
some more background on Tonight’s VAR. an American association football referee working in the English Football League since 2023. He was previously employed by PRO and officiated in Major League Soccer (MLS) between 2017 and 2023.

Outside of refereeing, Chilowicz works as a musician, with credits in television and film as well as on Broadway!

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #412 on: February 20, 2025, 01:32:05 PM »
I thought the officials were awful again last night.

The amount of times Van Dijk went straight through Watkins and was unbelievably unpunished was laughable

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #413 on: February 20, 2025, 08:46:12 PM »
The eternally cheerful & way off the speed of the modern game Keith Hackett thinks Disasi should have been sent off after his 'clash' with Mac Allister.

If someone's got you in a bear hug what the hell are you supposed to do?  Mac Allister should have been booked to IMO.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #414 on: February 22, 2025, 11:29:10 PM »
The letting the game go seems to mean you can pull push shove with impunity.
Except if the ref wants to influence the game and can penalise one team but not the other.
We have gone from not understanding what constitutes handball to what is a foul.
Its a real mess.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #415 on: Today at 01:52:44 AM »
How the heck did VAR not review the incident on Bogarde? 

Offline manic-road

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #416 on: Today at 07:29:36 AM »
How the heck did VAR not review the incident on Bogarde? 

They did, and still got it wrong again.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #417 on: Today at 07:46:11 AM »
Michael Oliver was shocking yesterday. And he's reckoned to be one of the top PL referees! We should've had a penalty for the Bogarde incident. VAR is useless!
« Last Edit: Today at 07:49:55 AM by Villafirst »

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #418 on: Today at 08:37:44 AM »
How the heck did VAR not review the incident on Bogarde? 

They did, and still got it wrong again.

Dermot Gallagher's usual defence is " both players were holding and pushing but the defender let's go before the ball in in play"  Ckearly that one is not going to work here so I think they will just ignore it.  Sky didn't seem to refer when talking about Villa after the game although may have covered it later.  Clearly and Obviously this wasn't 50/50 with Cucerellas holding being ongoing and including a pull back as Bogarde tried to reach the ball.  I can only think the looked at one view and decide no pen whereas the view from behind the goal leaves no doubt.  Still it's only Villa!
« Last Edit: Today at 08:53:04 AM by baddowvillans »

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #419 on: Today at 08:50:05 AM »
Just seen that MOTD didn't discuss after the match.  It was included in the match coverage where the commentator refers to the holding and then immediately says VAR have checked it " no penalty".  Maybe had we not won they might have reflected on it but I wouldn't put money on it!

 


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