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Offline boutrosboutrosgnarly

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #330 on: December 01, 2023, 08:52:36 PM »
So it seems that Legia Warsaw purposely delayed, pontificated and ignored requests about the ticket allocation and distribution so that the pricks that follow them could do what they have done in the past and force the local old bill to relent and let them in.Except when it didnt happen this time both the club and the bell end 'ultras' threw their toys out the pram.
Im no great fan of WMP but I don't think any blame lies with them this time.
Fuck Legia Warsaw, hope they go bust.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #331 on: December 01, 2023, 08:56:44 PM »
Young Boys were fined €28k for their fan behavior when they played Man City in Manchester a few weeks back.

They had flares, vandalised seats and toilets in the stadium, threw some stuff, and a few other crowd disturbances.

They were given a 1 match ban on selling tickets for away games, but that is suspended for 2 years.

Not at all the same level as what we saw yesterday, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's no major punishment for Legia.

Any major punishment more likely going to be due to the actions of the club rather than the fans, ie not handling ticket sales/distribution properly and poor communication with UEFA and the police.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #332 on: December 01, 2023, 08:57:27 PM »
Two things stand out from the club's statement today:

Aston Villa can confirm it has lodged an official complaint with UEFA over the conduct of Legia Warsaw Football Club ...

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To reiterate, Legia officials were advised on a call that included a number of UEFA representatives on November 2 that they would receive an allocation of 1002 – exactly four weeks prior to last night’s fixture.

It's pretty clear to me that we're trying to alert UEFA to Legia’s part in last night's events. The club seems to have been wholly complicit in the whole sorry affair and don't appear  to be prepared to accept any responsibility.

For conspiracy theorists - are we hoping UEFA kick them out of this year's competition?

There's a fortnight until the final legs are played. Long enough for UEFA to grow a figurative pair and take proper action. But I'm not holding my breath.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #333 on: December 01, 2023, 09:06:20 PM »
No conspiracy. Just common decency between clubs, not forthcoming from Legia.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #334 on: December 01, 2023, 09:09:04 PM »
Reassuring to see that the deplorable behaviour of the away fans is now taking centre stage on this thread as opposed to the initial posts inexplicably questioning the antics of WMP.

Yep found that really disconcerting last night that people still held those sorts of attitudes. Definitely balanced out today and been some really good commentary from Villa supporters!

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #335 on: December 01, 2023, 09:16:38 PM »
At what point did the police say they were going to kettle the away fans in the car park and not let them out and what had happened prior to this that led them to conclude the entire support, every one of them had been involved in violent activity?

Online AV84

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #336 on: December 01, 2023, 10:08:38 PM »


It's pretty clear to me that we're trying to alert UEFA to Legia’s part in last night's events. The club seems to have been wholly complicit in the whole sorry affair and don't appear  to be prepared to accept any responsibility.

For conspiracy theorists - are we hoping UEFA kick them out of this year's competition?


If it's anything other than us just being pissed off at Legia, it will be an awareness of how stupid UEFA can be when it comes to dishing out punishments. We'll want to make it abundantly clear that we did everything by the book and the blame falls entirely on Legia.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #337 on: December 01, 2023, 10:34:41 PM »
Any group of fans who refer to themselves as "ultras" want chucking in the bin.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #338 on: December 01, 2023, 10:39:08 PM »
Didn't realize there were no away fans at ground yesterday as I was at far end of lower Witton Lane (the bit that blocks loads of Holte End seats from seeing anything) - appreciate there were tonnes of Legia dickheads but we have a few of our own and imagine the furore if we had our fans banned from entering a ground away in Europe and spent hundreds of thousands on an away day? This is a worrying development and reminds me of some of the shit you get North if the border with the Old Firm!

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #339 on: December 01, 2023, 10:41:35 PM »
Didn't realize there were no away fans at ground yesterday as I was at far end of lower Witton Lane (the bit that blocks loads of Holte End seats from seeing anything) - appreciate there were tonnes of Legia dickheads but we have a few of our own and imagine the furore if we had our fans banned from entering a ground away in Europe and spent hundreds of thousands on an away day? This is a worrying development and reminds me of some of the shit you get North if the border with the Old Firm!
who the feck came up with the design for this

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #340 on: December 01, 2023, 10:48:40 PM »
Doug Ellis and his cost cutters

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #341 on: December 01, 2023, 10:51:46 PM »
Didn't realize there were no away fans at ground yesterday as I was at far end of lower Witton Lane (the bit that blocks loads of Holte End seats from seeing anything) - appreciate there were tonnes of Legia dickheads but we have a few of our own and imagine the furore if we had our fans banned from entering a ground away in Europe and spent hundreds of thousands on an away day? This is a worrying development and reminds me of some of the shit you get North if the border with the Old Firm!

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Know what you mean but if you look at the club’s statement earlier it’s not as simple as people being banned.

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #342 on: December 01, 2023, 10:56:00 PM »
Doug Ellis and his cost cutters
my ST is up there , i sometimes wander down to the Holte End end at HT and look over edge and think , how can them lot down there see anything  ::)

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #343 on: December 01, 2023, 10:58:49 PM »
If there are 46 still in Stockland Green nick, I assume the other 1,954 fans are waiting outside for them? It's all of them or none of them going home, right?

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Re: No away fans
« Reply #344 on: December 01, 2023, 11:29:38 PM »
Were any of the Legia fans who got booted from the home sections causing trouble? I wonder if genuine fans who just wanted to see the game and avoid the trouble might have thought that was their best option? Or was it just all chancers there to cause trouble?

On that note too, how did staff know if they were Legia fans who travelled or just Polish people living locally, even if Legia fans? I saw a picture of a woman being removed and she didn't look like an obvious Legia fan.

 


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