Pau Torres

[VillaTim]

Torres played absolutely fine today, and he did bring the ball out of defence. The goals aren’t down to him, singling him out is just playing up to a narrative.

Rubbish. He's all at sea for goal 1 .

[kippaxvilla2]

The bloke cannot defend.  And is playing besides someone who can defend one in 7 games.

[Steve67]

I appreciate he was brought in to the club to improve the passing and to bring the ball out from the back but the main feature of any centre half is to be able to defend properly. He is rarely in the right place at the right time and when he is, he’s passive and lacks aggression.

[VillaTim]

Probably gets away with it in La Liga but he's not strong enough for the Prem .

[PaulWinch again]

But again was good and strong enough when we got to top of the league a year ago.

[VillaTim]

But again was good and strong enough when we got to top of the league a year ago.

We never got to the top . And leagues aren't won in December anyway .

[Ian.]

He’s ace, he isn’t the problem.

[PaulWinch again]

Ok near the top, but winning the league isn’t the point. He was starting in the Premier League and doing fine when we competed at the top. He’s not in his best form, but this idea that he isn’t good enough as a player for where we want to be is nonsense.

[VillaTim]

Our defence is a car crash and he's at the centre of it . (As is DC) .
Both need moving on .

[Somniloquism]

Torres played absolutely fine today, and he did bring the ball out of defence. The goals aren’t down to him, singling him out is just playing up to a narrative.

Rubbish. He's all at sea for goal 1 .

Not sure what you are getting at just stating Torres is at fault. Corner comes in, is cleared near post by Digne, the whole defence come out to the edge of the box to try to get Gibbs-White offside, they don't and then the ball clears everyone's head, not just Torres. IF a player needs a blame it is Kamara. Comes out with the rest, then dives in, then comes out again, then marks space on the edge of the area letting 31 stand two yards goal side and making an unchecked run.

[Risso]

He's the been main man for the last 12 months when we've been shipping goals, right left and centre. Whether that's next to Konsa or Carlos, the end result is the same. £30m+ on a defender who can't defend or organise the rest of the back four.

[brontebilly]

Torres played absolutely fine today, and he did bring the ball out of defence. The goals aren’t down to him, singling him out is just playing up to a narrative.

Rubbish. He's all at sea for goal 1 .

Not sure what you are getting at just stating Torres is at fault. Corner comes in, is cleared near post by Digne, the whole defence come out to the edge of the box to try to get Gibbs-White offside, they don't and then the ball clears everyone's head, not just Torres. IF a player needs a blame it is Kamara. Comes out with the rest, then dives in, then comes out again, then marks space on the edge of the area letting 31 stand two yards goal side and making an unchecked run.

Torres is nearly on top of Konsa while their guy stands unopposed behind him. Kamara was very poor too, didn't track him but Torres is in no man's land. It was a great ball across the goal from Gibbs-White but the defending is pathetic.

[PaulWinch again]

He's the been main man for the last 12 months when we've been shipping goals, right left and centre. Whether that's next to Konsa or Carlos, the end result is the same. £30m+ on a defender who can't defend or organise the rest of the back four.

And he was the main man for the preceding 6 months and we did well. It suggests he might not be the issue, and the main  thing that has changed in that time is our central midfield combo.

[andyh]

Some seem to think he is some sort of messiah.
He gives the ball away as many times as he makes a pass.
He regularly under hits  his passes putting the receiver under more pressure than necessary.
He is a centre half who is crap in the air, and he is not a good defender.

He is nowhere near the quality of players like God,, Laursen or Mellberg.


He is definitely an ‘Emperor’s new clothes’ type player.

[Risso]

He's the been main man for the last 12 months when we've been shipping goals, right left and centre. Whether that's next to Konsa or Carlos, the end result is the same. £30m+ on a defender who can't defend or organise the rest of the back four.

And he was the main man for the preceding 6 months and we did well. It suggests he might not be the issue, and the main  thing that has changed in that time is our central midfield combo.

A year's a lot longer than 6 months, isn't it? Like, double?

If he was half as good at defending as you are at defending him, he'd be like Paul McGrath. But he isn't, he's shit at it.