Chris Heck - President of Business Operations

[AV82EC]

I guess if you're a TV supporter, all is good currently, so I won't begrudge you that.

No need for that is there. We try not to do "I'm a better fan than yo"

You could just as easily interpret his post as conveying the same message.

The location has nothing to do with it either, it's generally easier to identify people who don't go to matches as they're typically neutral at the very least about Chris Heck. Going to matches doesn't make you a better fan, but it does highlight just how little Heck cares about the fan base more than if you don't attend.

Brushing off people's concerns because we have a great manager does nothing to address this. Where do we go once Unai leaves?

I go to plenty of matches thanks and I’m neutral on Chris Heck so stop making vague generalisations about the fanbase.

[Billy Walker]

Serious question, how do we get this American fuck out of our club?

The recent Trump nonsense shows how far removed we are from these people.

We need to get them out of our sport if not our country.

Where would you rank Chris Heck, in terms of communication/revenue generation/ambition/vision etc. out of the following:
Doug Ellis/Steve Stride/Tony Stephens/Abdul Rashid/,
Tom Fox,
Christian Purslow, 
Keith Wyness/Luke Organ,
Paul Faulkner
(I can't think of any others...)

Whilst Heck isn't brilliant at the warm and cuddly communication, I think he is on a completely different level in regards to the rest.  I don't want him out, so in regards to the "How do WE get him out the club?" question, I have to politey say you don't speak for me, Max.

[PeterWithe]

Interesting question, none of the others were selling a 'product' that was in the most high profile club competition in the World. If you are judging Heck on just his ability to generate revenue, as I reckon the owners are, then he's done brilliantly, but that cant be looked at in isolation apart from what UE has given him to sell.

[Max Villan]

I guess if you're a TV supporter, all is good currently, so I won't begrudge you that.

No need for that is there. We try not to do "I'm a better fan than yo"

You could just as easily interpret his post as conveying the same message.

The location has nothing to do with it either, it's generally easier to identify people who don't go to matches as they're typically neutral at the very least about Chris Heck. Going to matches doesn't make you a better fan, but it does highlight just how little Heck cares about the fan base more than if you don't attend.

Brushing off people's concerns because we have a great manager does nothing to address this. Where do we go once Unai leaves?

I go to plenty of matches thanks and I’m neutral on Chris Heck so stop making vague generalisations about the fanbase.

I said attending matches highlights the issues.

If they don't cause you issues then good for you, I'm glad you're alright Jack.

[Max Villan]

Serious question, how do we get this American fuck out of our club?

The recent Trump nonsense shows how far removed we are from these people.

We need to get them out of our sport if not our country.

Where would you rank Chris Heck, in terms of communication/revenue generation/ambition/vision etc. out of the following:
Doug Ellis/Steve Stride/Tony Stephens/Abdul Rashid/,
Tom Fox,
Christian Purslow, 
Keith Wyness/Luke Organ,
Paul Faulkner
(I can't think of any others...)

Whilst Heck isn't brilliant at the warm and cuddly communication, I think he is on a completely different level in regards to the rest.  I don't want him out, so in regards to the "How do WE get him out the club?" question, I have to politey say you don't speak for me, Max.

So your answer is you do nothing as you're happy. See, it wasn't hard was it.

[Max Villan]

Interesting question, none of the others were selling a 'product' that was in the most high profile club competition in the World. If you are judging Heck on just his ability to generate revenue, as I reckon the owners are, then he's done brilliantly, but that cant be looked at in isolation apart from what UE has given him to sell.

It's exactly this.

I don't think it's a hard sell with Villa right now, and that's because we have a great manager.

The sentiment here seems to be everything off the field at the club is great, fantastic right now, so I'll respect your opinions and leave you to it.

Let's see how it holds up.

[pauliewalnuts]

The sentiment here seems to be everything off the field at the club is great, fantastic right now

I have no idea what makes you think that. Read this thread back further than the recent interactions you had, there has been absolutely tons of criticism of off field stuff. This thread almost entirely consists of people who do not think everything is great off the field.

[villadelph]

Serious question, how do we get this American fuck out of our club?

The recent Trump nonsense shows how far removed we are from these people.

We need to get them out of our sport if not our country.

Where would you rank Chris Heck, in terms of communication/revenue generation/ambition/vision etc. out of the following:
Doug Ellis/Steve Stride/Tony Stephens/Abdul Rashid/,
Tom Fox,
Christian Purslow, 
Keith Wyness/Luke Organ,
Paul Faulkner
(I can't think of any others...)

Whilst Heck isn't brilliant at the warm and cuddly communication, I think he is on a completely different level in regards to the rest.  I don't want him out, so in regards to the "How do WE get him out the club?" question, I have to politey say you don't speak for me, Max.

So your answer is you do nothing as you're happy. See, it wasn't hard was it.

I'm curious.. what's your answer to his question?

[UK Redsox]

Serious question, how do we get this American fuck out of our club?

The recent Trump nonsense shows how far removed we are from these people.

We need to get them out of our sport if not our country.

Where would you rank Chris Heck, in terms of communication/revenue generation/ambition/vision etc. out of the following:
Doug Ellis/Steve Stride/Tony Stephens/Abdul Rashid/,
Tom Fox,
Christian Purslow, 
Keith Wyness/Luke Organ,
Paul Faulkner
(I can't think of any others...)

Whilst Heck isn't brilliant at the warm and cuddly communication, I think he is on a completely different level in regards to the rest.  I don't want him out, so in regards to the "How do WE get him out the club?" question, I have to politey say you don't speak for me, Max.

So your answer is you do nothing as you're happy. See, it wasn't hard was it.

I'm curious.. what's your answer to his question?

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[paul_e]

The sentiment here seems to be everything off the field at the club is great, fantastic right now

I have no idea what makes you think that. Read this thread back further than the recent interactions you had, there has been absolutely tons of criticism of off field stuff. This thread almost entirely consists of people who do not think everything is great off the field.

However most are understanding that He isn't doing it entirely on his own and doing what is requested of him by the board. Edens and Sawiris then have more than enough credit in the bank wth most supporters to be considered as good owners, even by those of us who think Billionaires shouldn't exist.

[Max Villan]

Serious question, how do we get this American fuck out of our club?

The recent Trump nonsense shows how far removed we are from these people.

We need to get them out of our sport if not our country.

Where would you rank Chris Heck, in terms of communication/revenue generation/ambition/vision etc. out of the following:
Doug Ellis/Steve Stride/Tony Stephens/Abdul Rashid/,
Tom Fox,
Christian Purslow, 
Keith Wyness/Luke Organ,
Paul Faulkner
(I can't think of any others...)

Whilst Heck isn't brilliant at the warm and cuddly communication, I think he is on a completely different level in regards to the rest.  I don't want him out, so in regards to the "How do WE get him out the club?" question, I have to politey say you don't speak for me, Max.

So your answer is you do nothing as you're happy. See, it wasn't hard was it.

I'm curious.. what's your answer to his question?

I'd rank him below Christian Purslow, that's my preference.

The others were pretty terrible, I'm happy enough to accept that. It doesn't change my personal opinion on Chris Heck and the contempt he holds supporters in. Most of the others, for all their faults, at least pretended not to.

It is possible to have a middle ground between the two you know (as I thought Purslow was).

[algy]

Interesting question, none of the others were selling a 'product' that was in the most high profile club competition in the World. If you are judging Heck on just his ability to generate revenue, as I reckon the owners are, then he's done brilliantly, but that cant be looked at in isolation apart from what UE has given him to sell.

It's exactly this.

I don't think it's a hard sell with Villa right now, and that's because we have a great manager.

The sentiment here seems to be everything off the field at the club is great, fantastic right now, so I'll respect your opinions and leave you to it.

Let's see how it holds up.

I mean, everything's a piece of piss when it's not you doing the work for it.  I think running the country is a piece of piss, and to be frank even Steven Gerrard could get us to at least the Quarter Finals of the European Cup, cos that's what we always do when we're allowed to play in it.  Just like we always beat Bayern Munich when they play them, so they must be really shit.

You see what I mean?  I'm not saying Heck is good or bad or whatever, but I think you can't really write off stuff as being easy just on the basis that the team is doing well on the pitch.

Personally, I've no strong feelings on the guy, just as I've no strong feelings on the CEO of Tesco or whatever.

[Billy Walker]

I guess if you're a TV supporter, all is good currently, so I won't begrudge you that.

No need for that is there. We try not to do "I'm a better fan than yo"

You could just as easily interpret his post as conveying the same message.

The location has nothing to do with it either, it's generally easier to identify people who don't go to matches as they're typically neutral at the very least about Chris Heck. Going to matches doesn't make you a better fan, but it does highlight just how little Heck cares about the fan base more than if you don't attend.

Brushing off people's concerns because we have a great manager does nothing to address this. Where do we go once Unai leaves?

I go to plenty of matches thanks and I’m neutral on Chris Heck so stop making vague generalisations about the fanbase.

I said attending matches highlights the issues.

If they don't cause you issues then good for you, I'm glad you're alright Jack.

Interesting question, none of the others were selling a 'product' that was in the most high profile club competition in the World. If you are judging Heck on just his ability to generate revenue, as I reckon the owners are, then he's done brilliantly, but that cant be looked at in isolation apart from what UE has given him to sell.

True, but this is the point, I think. The owners have ambition on and off the pitch and really want to grow the Club, hence someone like Heck has been appointed at a time when someone like Unai is our boss.  You're right to say Unai is the driver of it all but top business people are required to harness it, I think.  Both appointments show genuine ambition from the owners.

[Billy Walker]

Serious question, how do we get this American fuck out of our club?

The recent Trump nonsense shows how far removed we are from these people.

We need to get them out of our sport if not our country.

Where would you rank Chris Heck, in terms of communication/revenue generation/ambition/vision etc. out of the following:
Doug Ellis/Steve Stride/Tony Stephens/Abdul Rashid/,
Tom Fox,
Christian Purslow, 
Keith Wyness/Luke Organ,
Paul Faulkner
(I can't think of any others...)

Whilst Heck isn't brilliant at the warm and cuddly communication, I think he is on a completely different level in regards to the rest.  I don't want him out, so in regards to the "How do WE get him out the club?" question, I have to politey say you don't speak for me, Max.

So your answer is you do nothing as you're happy. See, it wasn't hard was it.

I'm curious.. what's your answer to his question?

I'd rank him below Christian Purslow, that's my preference.

The others were pretty terrible, I'm happy enough to accept that. It doesn't change my personal opinion on Chris Heck and the contempt he holds supporters in. Most of the others, for all their faults, at least pretended not to.

It is possible to have a middle ground between the two you know (as I thought Purslow was).

Yeah, I was big fan of Purslow, too - mind you, some of the stick he got was shocking, as well.  It's the kind of job where you are there to be shot at.

[Max Villan]

Serious question, how do we get this American fuck out of our club?

The recent Trump nonsense shows how far removed we are from these people.

We need to get them out of our sport if not our country.

Where would you rank Chris Heck, in terms of communication/revenue generation/ambition/vision etc. out of the following:
Doug Ellis/Steve Stride/Tony Stephens/Abdul Rashid/,
Tom Fox,
Christian Purslow, 
Keith Wyness/Luke Organ,
Paul Faulkner
(I can't think of any others...)

Whilst Heck isn't brilliant at the warm and cuddly communication, I think he is on a completely different level in regards to the rest.  I don't want him out, so in regards to the "How do WE get him out the club?" question, I have to politey say you don't speak for me, Max.

So your answer is you do nothing as you're happy. See, it wasn't hard was it.

I'm curious.. what's your answer to his question?

I'd rank him below Christian Purslow, that's my preference.

The others were pretty terrible, I'm happy enough to accept that. It doesn't change my personal opinion on Chris Heck and the contempt he holds supporters in. Most of the others, for all their faults, at least pretended not to.

It is possible to have a middle ground between the two you know (as I thought Purslow was).

Yeah, I was big fan of Purslow, too - mind you, some of the stick he got was shocking, as well.  It's the kind of job where you are there to be shot at.

I think a lot of people would point to the Gerrard appointment as a big red flag for him, which is possibly fair - but if Emery was to leave tomorrow, it wouldn't be Heck replacing him, so it's not really a fair comparison.

Purslow laid down the foundations for where we are now and I think a lot of the people who criticised him then maybe have different opinions now. Or maybe they dont.