Chris Heck - President of Business Operations

[LeeB]

The fans on here that are moaning about Heck, how would they get our turnover to the magic £400 million?

I'd make your season ticket alone cost £200m.

[Brend'Watkins]

The fans on here that are moaning about Heck, how would they get our turnover to the magic £400 million?

I'd make your season ticket alone cost £200m.

The quote fail apart, that gave me the first good laugh of the day.

[Villan82]

The fans on here that are moaning about Heck, how would they get our turnover to the magic £400 million?

knock the north stand down,  have it purpose built to have GA+ in it and because it's in a purpose stand they could charge more than what they are charging because it wouldn't be in a stand that's nearly 50 years old and well passed its best.  But then I'd be looking to regularly get £400 million turnover unlike Hecks do it once then run away.

Oh yeah and better sponsorship, for example we haven't got any sponsorship on our pre match warm up tops.

This.

[john e]

The fans on here that are moaning about Heck, how would they get our turnover to the magic £400 million?

Hope the moaners don’t go to the games hypocrites if they do apparently

[Gareth]

The fans on here that are moaning about Heck, how would they get our turnover to the magic £400 million?

Hope the moaners don’t go to the games hypocrites if they do apparently

I hate Heck and most of what he is implementing at the club, I go to all home games, I hate the choice of game for the anniversary celebration, I’m going to the game

I’ll join you on the hypocrite step John

[john e]

The fans on here that are moaning about Heck, how would they get our turnover to the magic £400 million?

Hope the moaners don’t go to the games hypocrites if they do apparently

I hate Heck and most of what he is implementing at the club, I go to all home games, I hate the choice of game for the anniversary celebration, I’m going to the game

I’ll join you on the hypocrite step John

Your welcome mate
It’s a big step

[pauliewalnuts]

The fans on here that are moaning about Heck, how would they get our turnover to the magic £400 million?

I'd make your season ticket alone cost £200m.

Agree

Instant multi million pound price tag for anyone born in 1964.

[amfy]

The fans on here that are moaning about Heck, how would they get our turnover to the magic £400 million?

I wouldn't call it 'magical', if alienating your fanbase by pricing loyal long term fans out of seeing something they've waited 40 years to witness, is the only way to achieve it. Thinking about it, I've paid nearly half the cost of my season ticket to watch 4 Champions League matches?! Two of which, Bologna and Celtic - An absolute joke at that price, and had it not been something I've waited desperately to see at Villa Park, I would not have parted with a penny.

With the ridiculous amounts of money in football now through TV deals, player transfer fees (*and their salaries), and then expecting fans to be able to pay inflated ticket prices to match (*despite OUR income not rising proportionately), something has to give. The TV deals/prize money is being used for the wrong purpose - It's primary goal should be subsidising fans costs, as without fans, there is no football.

Football is getting greedier, and it feels like authorities outside of football need to get involved now (*ie. The Government), before it eats itself.

See this is the thing. When anyone says that female footballers shouldn’t be paid the same as male footballers because their game doesn’t generate the income the male game does, they are absolutely right.

The bit they are missing is that male footballers are being paid wages that their game doesn’t generate either, & so they keep squeezing us to try and find that money.

Whilst they allow some clubs to continue with money they haven’t generated from their support, but not others, we will continue to price out people who would support the club through thick & thin, & try to stagger onwards with people who will cough up now out of loyalty but won't be able to afford it indefinitely, combined with people who can afford it but eventually won’t want to because they weren’t that committed in the first place.

The problem is with the game overall, I honestly believe that until and example has been made of Man City, the entire game is on self destruct. In fact, we’re almost certainly already past the tipping point.

[jon collett]

It’s been eye opening to see prices in Europe this year. I paid 7 in Dortmund; 13 in Leipzig and 18 in Monaco.

Bit of a contrast with our prices.

I do wonder if one of the reasons we are doing so well in Champions League is because we pay our players so much more than the likes of Bologna, Leipzig, Young Boys and even Juventus. I assume Bayern do pay more than us?

Sky seems to have created a different ecosystem here which is why the continentals were keen to form a super league!

[Sexual Ealing]

I'd guess that Bayern pay their stars more than we do but that our cannon fodder will be on much more than theirs.

[john e]

The fans on here that are moaning about Heck, how would they get our turnover to the magic £400 million?

I wouldn't call it 'magical', if alienating your fanbase by pricing loyal long term fans out of seeing something they've waited 40 years to witness, is the only way to achieve it. Thinking about it, I've paid nearly half the cost of my season ticket to watch 4 Champions League matches?! Two of which, Bologna and Celtic - An absolute joke at that price, and had it not been something I've waited desperately to see at Villa Park, I would not have parted with a penny.

With the ridiculous amounts of money in football now through TV deals, player transfer fees (*and their salaries), and then expecting fans to be able to pay inflated ticket prices to match (*despite OUR income not rising proportionately), something has to give. The TV deals/prize money is being used for the wrong purpose - It's primary goal should be subsidising fans costs, as without fans, there is no football.

Football is getting greedier, and it feels like authorities outside of football need to get involved now (*ie. The Government), before it eats itself.

See this is the thing. When anyone says that female footballers shouldn’t be paid the same as male footballers because their game doesn’t generate the income the make game does, they are absolutely right.

The bit they are missing is that male footballers are being paid wages that their game doesn’t generate either, & so they keep squeezing us to try and find that money.

Whilst they allow some clubs to continue with money they haven’t generated from their support, but not others, we will continue to price out people who would support the club through thick & thin, & try to stagger onwards with people who will cough up now out of loyalty but won't be able to afford it indefinitely, combined with people who can afford it but eventually won’t want to because they weren’t that committed in the first place.

The problem is with the game overall, I honestly believe that until and example has been made of Man City, the entire game is on self destruct. In fact, we’re almost certainly already past the tipping point.

Agree, Great post

[Dante Lavelli]

Just playing Devil's Advocate here, but do expensive tickets and high revenue = success?
Liverpool have no category A/B games, cheapest ticket for an adult £9. Top of the League.
Forest..crap revenue, reasonably priced tickets ..2nd in League.
Spurs..eye watering tickets, huge revenue ...crap
Man Utd..revenue to rival the world's best ...crap
Chelsea..spent £1B on players...behind Forest..
Atalanta...top of Serie A..

Boffins have previously stated the strongest correlation between success/failure is wages.  You might fluke it for a while but eventually the improving players will demand a rise or leave to get one.

[Ian.]

The fans on here that are moaning about Heck, how would they get our turnover to the magic £400 million?

I wouldn't call it 'magical', if alienating your fanbase by pricing loyal long term fans out of seeing something they've waited 40 years to witness, is the only way to achieve it. Thinking about it, I've paid nearly half the cost of my season ticket to watch 4 Champions League matches?! Two of which, Bologna and Celtic - An absolute joke at that price, and had it not been something I've waited desperately to see at Villa Park, I would not have parted with a penny.

With the ridiculous amounts of money in football now through TV deals, player transfer fees (*and their salaries), and then expecting fans to be able to pay inflated ticket prices to match (*despite OUR income not rising proportionately), something has to give. The TV deals/prize money is being used for the wrong purpose - It's primary goal should be subsidising fans costs, as without fans, there is no football.

Football is getting greedier, and it feels like authorities outside of football need to get involved now (*ie. The Government), before it eats itself.

See this is the thing. When anyone says that female footballers shouldn’t be paid the same as male footballers because their game doesn’t generate the income the male game does, they are absolutely right.

The bit they are missing is that male footballers are being paid wages that their game doesn’t generate either, & so they keep squeezing us to try and find that money.

Whilst they allow some clubs to continue with money they haven’t generated from their support, but not others, we will continue to price out people who would support the club through thick & thin, & try to stagger onwards with people who will cough up now out of loyalty but won't be able to afford it indefinitely, combined with people who can afford it but eventually won’t want to because they weren’t that committed in the first place.

The problem is with the game overall, I honestly believe that until and example has been made of Man City, the entire game is on self destruct. In fact, we’re almost certainly already past the tipping point.

Excellent post Amfy

[Towser]

See this is the thing. When anyone says that female footballers shouldn’t be paid the same as male footballers because their game doesn’t generate the income the male game does, they are absolutely right.

The bit they are missing is that male footballers are being paid wages that their game doesn’t generate either, & so they keep squeezing us to try and find that money.

Whilst they allow some clubs to continue with money they haven’t generated from their support, but not others, we will continue to price out people who would support the club through thick & thin, & try to stagger onwards with people who will cough up now out of loyalty but won't be able to afford it indefinitely, combined with people who can afford it but eventually won’t want to because they weren’t that committed in the first place.

The problem is with the game overall, I honestly believe that until and example has been made of Man City, the entire game is on self destruct. In fact, we’re almost certainly already past the tipping point.

Brilliant post amfy, the bold bit is where I am, currently paying almost £1k each for me and my Wife, I am 65 this year, retirement is next year, I am sure I wont be able to afford it once we retire, even if we still want to go, been going since 1972, used to go home, away everywhere, stopped the away games a few years ago and fear our home attendances will also be stopping in the next couple of years, goodness knows how much a ticket will be next year but I am guessing it will be over £1k each

Edited to add, please can we win the FA Cup before I stop going?

[The Edge]

The fans on here that are moaning about Heck, how would they get our turnover to the magic £400 million?

I would simply monetise gratitude, obsequiousness and the knowing of one's place. I would also harness the energy produced by the collective grovelling of working class Tories and sell it to the national grid.

Applause 👏🏻