Kits 23/24

[pauliewalnuts]

Something I haven't seen mentioned - Castore's inability to provide a kit to our first team which has not proved to be uncomfortable and unpopular with the players?

That's piss poor.

Sawiris is not a fan of fucking about - he's the man who sacked our manager at an away match just before he got on the coach home - I can only begin to imagine his opinion of Castore.

Then there's the prestige part of it, it all adds up, not just from the kits, but from the sponsors (another thing I'd like us to change), to how the club is viewed.

Running around in Championship guff from Castore, Macron and Kappa is not a good look, it just says "whoever gives us the most money, we'll take them".

Also, Heck has, in the time he has been here, killed off part of the North Stand redevelopment despite plans having been approved, and - most importantly in terms of image - killed off a new badge launch which was already happening because he didn't think it was right. I reckon he'll be all over shit like this.

In terms of image, you don't see big clubs running around in low-end market rubbish. Newcastle have dumped Castore mid-contract, and assuming we do, who are their other 'big' prestige club clients?

Pissy small clubs like Wolves.

[PeterWithe]

I’ll never consider Kappa a crappy brand due to its 80s history, it’s gone a bit ‘Sports Direct’ now but it was quality clobber. And for what it’s worth, Macron is by far the best quality stuff for grass roots teams.

None of which will change your mind.

[pauliewalnuts]

Remember that impressive video Macron put together about them designing our shirt, before it had been revealed? How they had a top Italian design team on it yada yada, then when it was released, it looked like something someone who'd never seen a football shirt would design.

It reminded me of that Fast Show sketch with the make-up artist, "six hours in makeup and the transition is complete!".

[AV84]

In terms of image, you don't see big clubs running around in low-end market rubbish. Newcastle have dumped Castore mid-contract, and assuming we do, who are their other 'big' prestige club clients?

Pissy small clubs like Wolves.

Castore have on their books this season, 
Bayer Leverkusen, Feyenoord, Sevilla, Wolves, Athletic Bilbao, Rangers, U.D. Almeria, Utrecht, PNE, Twente, Mansfield Town, Charlton Athletic, MK Dons.

Some bigger than others, granted, but some pretty prestigious clubs there too.

[pauliewalnuts]

In terms of image, you don't see big clubs running around in low-end market rubbish. Newcastle have dumped Castore mid-contract, and assuming we do, who are their other 'big' prestige club clients?

Pissy small clubs like Wolves.

Castore have on their books this season, 
Bayer Leverkusen, Feyenoord, Sevilla, Wolves, Athletic Bilbao, Rangers, U.D. Almeria, Utrecht, PNE, Twente, Mansfield Town, Charlton Athletic, MK Dons.

Some bigger than others, granted, but some pretty prestigious clubs there too.

No top level clubs there. A few of similar level to us - Seville, Feyenoord, maybe Bilbao.

The rest is guff.

I am excluding any discussion of Rangers as it's Scottish football, and I can't be arsed to set off a discussion about them.

[PeterWithe]

Got to say the Castore training stuff, the only things I buy when it’s on sale, are pretty decent.

[PeterWithe]

As an aside, I was driving through Glasgow last week and right by Parkhead is a pub painted in Rangers colours with Union Jacks/Flags flying from the roof and walls. I smiled thinking ‘ I bet that place has put a lot of decorators and glaziers kids through university’

Weird.

[AV84]

In terms of image, you don't see big clubs running around in low-end market rubbish. Newcastle have dumped Castore mid-contract, and assuming we do, who are their other 'big' prestige club clients?

Pissy small clubs like Wolves.

Castore have on their books this season, 
Bayer Leverkusen, Feyenoord, Sevilla, Wolves, Athletic Bilbao, Rangers, U.D. Almeria, Utrecht, PNE, Twente, Mansfield Town, Charlton Athletic, MK Dons.

Some bigger than others, granted, but some pretty prestigious clubs there too.

No top level clubs there. A few of similar level to us - Seville, Feyenoord, maybe Bilbao.

The rest is guff.

I disagree with your assessment of some of those clubs, but let's say you're right, and they're mostly guff. That's exactly why Castore will give us more money than a brand like Nike or Adidas. And from all we've seen the club do recently, money matters.

[Villan82]

Just go back to Luke design.

I'm very much in the minority, but it's just too claret. I get the whole Villa fan designer and promotion euphoria but as a kit in isolation, it wasn't really for me.

You speak sense! Correct on all fronts

[chrisw1]

Something I haven't seen mentioned - Castore's inability to provide a kit to our first team which has not proved to be uncomfortable and unpopular with the players?

That's piss poor.

It seems to have gone very quiet on the sweaty kit front.  At the time people were speculating at least 3-4 weeks for new kits to be made, others thought they should be able to drop everything and sort it in a week.

It goes to show, even with the potential huge damage to the brand over their heads, knocking up 100 new shirts clearly isn't as easy as people think.

[pauliewalnuts]

Something I haven't seen mentioned - Castore's inability to provide a kit to our first team which has not proved to be uncomfortable and unpopular with the players?

That's piss poor.

It seems to have gone very quiet on the sweaty kit front.  At the time people were speculating at least 3-4 weeks for new kits to be made, others thought they should be able to drop everything and sort it in a week.

It goes to show, even with the potential huge damage to the brand over their heads, knocking up 100 new shirts clearly isn't as easy as people think.

Or that they're not bothering as we've told them we want to exit the contract regardless. We don't really know.

[pauliewalnuts]

In terms of image, you don't see big clubs running around in low-end market rubbish. Newcastle have dumped Castore mid-contract, and assuming we do, who are their other 'big' prestige club clients?

Pissy small clubs like Wolves.

Castore have on their books this season, 
Bayer Leverkusen, Feyenoord, Sevilla, Wolves, Athletic Bilbao, Rangers, U.D. Almeria, Utrecht, PNE, Twente, Mansfield Town, Charlton Athletic, MK Dons.

Some bigger than others, granted, but some pretty prestigious clubs there too.

No top level clubs there. A few of similar level to us - Seville, Feyenoord, maybe Bilbao.

The rest is guff.

I disagree with your assessment of some of those clubs, but let's say you're right, and they're mostly guff. That's exactly why Castore will give us more money than a brand like Nike or Adidas. And from all we've seen the club do recently, money matters.

What's your take on BK8 in that case? As a sponsor?

[AV84]

What's your take on BK8 in that case? As a sponsor?

I don't have a take.

[Des Little]

Apologies if I missed it elsewhere but why the all claret kit last night? I’m not complaining, I think it looks great but just wondered why we wore it.

[AV84]

Apologies if I missed it elsewhere but why the all claret kit last night? I’m not complaining, I think it looks great but just wondered why we wore it.

AZ were wearing their 3rd kit which has grayish colour shorts. The assumption was the officials decided they clashed with our white shorts, so we changed.