Boubacar Kamara

[Footy-Vill]

The French team just has a ridiculous pool of talent.

That's basically it. When he's fit and playing regularly for us, he's usually included. If he isn't, they've got the aforementioned Tchouaméni, but also Zaïre-Emery, Camavinga, Fofana, Rabiot...

They're not calling Jordan Henderson out of retirement.

And also Tchouaméni who is also a top player.

Yes Tchouameni goal on world cup against England was world class .
All midfielders should have capabilities like that and he’s also someone who plays in defence as well as midfield Kamara has no ability shooting from distance that’s for sure.

[Dave]

All midfielders should have capabilities like that

That's just daft. Claude Makelele scored four league goals across his whole ten years with Real Madrid, Chelsea and PSG. Sergio Busquets scored twenty across a thousand matches for Barcelona and Spain.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

Regarding French squad players Manu Kone has also been pretty good when I’ve seen him. It’s safe to say that no matter how good we think Kamara is he’s got plenty of competition in the French national team.

[VillaTim]

Regarding French squad players Manu Kone has also been pretty good when I’ve seen him. It’s safe to say that no matter how good we think Kamara is he’s got plenty of competition in the French national team.

Yep take the claret n blue specs off and he's in a pool with some other talent and at the moment he's not quite in .
He has a fantastic opportunity these next couple of months to make himself a permanent fixture , big games , high exposure , his time is now if he seizes it.

[Footy-Vill]

It’s stupid to even consider Kamara’s attacking metrics. He’s basically a defender in our system.

He’s much more important to us than Luiz ever was

When you say Luiz you mean Nakamba.
Kamara is important in the system but Douglas Luiz was one of the best midfielders in our premier league history. Kamara is a great player and very classy for sure.

Ok so who like to compare Kamara to?  Saying he’s our Roddi is folly as he doesn’t have that influence on the team .

I would still say Luiz is better all round midfielder who could do everything.

Why would I mean Nakamba?

Luiz couldn’t do everything, he was often really poor as a 6, for starters. He’s far from being one of the best midfielders in our Premier League history.

To say Luiz was one of the best midfielders in our PL history is with all due respect complete nonsense.  Of the top of my head.

Townsend, Taylor, Richardson, Cowans, Paul Mortimer (okay I lied) were all better. 

Not nonsense at all . This is Douglas Luiz first Villa player to score in six consecutive Premier League matches at Villa Park, surpassing Dwight Yorke.
He scored 9 goals last season.
For me Luiz is our best goal scoring midfielder in last 25 years as he scored 20 goals in the league and to say before that then your players mentioned scored:

Ian Taylor 29
Townsend 8
Richardson 7
Cowans 49 goals
Mortimer 1 goal

And none of those players are from this century . I can’t actually comment on those players above how technically good they were but probably 2000s who apart from Barry or Petrov would be any better than Luiz? Haven’t had a midfielder who could score goals like him ,at top level, for a long time. And Barry and Petrov were classy players but Luiz had extra ability in comparing all 3 for excellent all-round central midfield ability who can attack and defend.

Luiz improved and developed year on year out. At times Luiz did world class things.

[Footy-Vill]

All midfielders should have capabilities like that

That's just daft. Claude Makelele scored four league goals across his whole ten years with Real Madrid, Chelsea and PSG. Sergio Busquets scored twenty across a thousand matches for Barcelona and Spain.

I’m talking about the game today, this era. Having goal contribution capabilities is essential for any top team.

Neves , Vitinha and Fabian Ruiz for PSG they all show amazing ability for all round midfield play. Kamara lacks a little in the offensive and creative side of his game that’s all.

Who is Kamara actually comparable too in the game today in the Premier League I know who

What do you and others think ?

[Footy-Vill]

Hes better footballer for me than Bentencur , Bissouma, Partey, Soucek and they can get a goal or two.
Hes also a better footballer in possession than Caceido who like Kamara offers no goal threat.

McAllister , Rice, Rodri, Guiamaraes, Pacqueta have contributed to win games.

The only comparison then be with Gravenbach at Liverpool he doesn’t score goals but plays his position very well just like Kamara and by his possession and passing contributes to winning matches by his midfield play. 

I think that’s a fair assessment.

[kippaxvilla2]

Every time I see the name Gravenbach I think of that advert of the little squirty bloke trying to impress the south East Asian parents of his girlfriend.

[Somniloquism]

Part of Kamara not being in the scoring / assists column as much is because Emery hadn't been playing him in that way. His role was mostly to tuck back when the ball was around their box to cover the fullback position. Torres / Luiz were the ones to play the ball forward.

But this season, although it hasn't fallen for him yet, he has had some tremendous shots which keepers have done well to save, and played some very good balls into the box which were not finished. He showed in Dubai he can do it with the tremendous pass to Asensio who did finish. With a player like him in the box, I expect a few more assists accredited to Kamara if Emery allows him further forward.

[DrGonzo]

Kamara is a class act but so was and is dougie . We haven’t replaced Dougies goals and Luiz was the ultimate midfielder.

Protecting ourselves with a new contract but he’s hardly irreplaceable.
Kamara doesn’t offer goals or take set pieces like Roddi, Luiz or Rice but for a 6 and sitting he’s great. His offensive play is lacking so fails on that metric .

Thing with Luiz he was amazing as could play 6,8 even 10 . What a player he became for us.  And those two together for me there wasn’t a better midfield pair in the premier league last season.

I do wonder if Prem is too robust for him as he’s picked up injuries here too frequently.
also how affiliated is he to Villa I wonder if he expected Villa to rise to such heights and what are his long term plans ?

WTF??  Dude, you've totally missed the point of Bouba Kamarra, if he's anywhere near the opponents 18 yard box he's not doing his job. He is a dynamo. He is an air bag. He's as close to football perfection as we have seen at VP in many a long year.  The fact he doesn't get spoken about is because he's so good at what he does that nobody notices.  It's a little like Joe Root playing 50 over cricket.  He doesn't knock bowlers out of the attack, smashing sixes...he provides a framework to allow other players to express themselves in ways that he might not be so capable of doing.  Like a pendulum in a clock he gives us the tick, without which we are far less. 
Sign him up and seal him down!

[Chap]

Spot on DG, excellent analogy.

[nigel]

Every time I see the name Gravenbach I think of that advert of the little squirty bloke trying to impress the south East Asian parents of his girlfriend.

😂

[eamonn]

Good points, Footy. Kamara isn't banned from the final third, the occasional howitzer from outside the box shouldn't be beyond him.

[Drummond]

Good points, Footy. Kamara isn't banned from the final third, the occasional howitzer from outside the box shouldn't be beyond him.

It should be if the manager doesn't want him to do it, which I'd suggest, is exactly the case.

Next we'll be moaning that Martinez doesn't push up/score enough.

[eamonn]

Kamara has been sighted taking shots, they just ain't been much cop up to now.