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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #9585 on: March 11, 2025, 10:05:03 PM »
If it went wider you'd potentially have problems with the roof of the trinity/DE.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #9586 on: March 11, 2025, 10:05:40 PM »
Just looked up the new end capacity at Anfield which is 16000. This change gets North Stand to 13,000 , same as Holte and Trinity. By comparison plops main stand is 20,600.

I just don't see how we will get to 60,000 on the current site and that's what I think we should be aiming for.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #9587 on: March 11, 2025, 10:05:46 PM »
Dunno if anyone's mentioned,but those drawings are from a Grimshaw Jan 23 proposal.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #9588 on: March 11, 2025, 10:16:39 PM »
Just looked up the new end capacity at Anfield which is 16000. This change gets North Stand to 13,000 , same as Holte and Trinity. By comparison plops main stand is 20,600.

I just don't see how we will get to 60,000 on the current site and that's what I think we should be aiming for.

In the future I reckon we will have a new 'main stand' on the witton lane side. Maybe 10-15 years. With the railway line it would make sense if we had a big, red brick beaut over there!

Pending sustainable regeneration of the entire area of course.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #9589 on: March 11, 2025, 11:24:22 PM »
Yuck! I'm not sitting there. 🤢

Well you at least consider safely standing?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #9590 on: March 11, 2025, 11:26:36 PM »
Dunno if anyone's mentioned,but those drawings are from a Grimshaw Jan 23 proposal.

Surely the fine brains of Team Atairos have been picked.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #9591 on: Today at 09:37:03 AM »
If it went wider you'd potentially have problems with the roof of the trinity/DE.

There is also the restaurant on the Trinity side and the large screen on the DE side that would need to be taken down.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #9592 on: Today at 09:39:10 AM »
Dunno if anyone's mentioned,but those drawings are from a Grimshaw Jan 23 proposal.

Not sure they are - as that version had the middle Trinity connecting with the new North Stand and didn't include the existing lower tier.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #9593 on: Today at 09:54:32 AM »
Well, I like those plans.  Along with the seat reconfiguration it should take us up to around 50k capacity, which was pretty much what Purslow's plan entailed, but will cost less and not involve us playing in the middle of a building site for 2 years, including our 150th anniversary season and first European Cup campaign in over 40 years.  Villa Live has been replaced with the Warehouse.  It seems to me that we're doing exactly what we were going to do, just in a more efficient & cost-effective way.  Whilst I imagine the ticket prices for the North Stand will go up, I'd expect it'll be by far less than if it was a completely new build stand.

I think importantly, the ground keeps a lot of it's character.  I don't want us playing in some soulless bowl.  I want other club's supporters to come to our ground, and leave wishing their's was 10% of what our's is.

As for 60k capacity, I don't think we need that in the immediate future.  Around 50,000 takes us to the 5th biggest stadium outside of London (behind the 2 Manchester sides, Liverpool, and Newcastle -- but we'd be a comparable size to 115/Geordie Arabia and the other two have been considerably more successful than us during anyone's living memory). Longer term, we could look at filling in the corners at the North Stand end, or rebuilding/remodelling the Witton Lane Stand.
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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #9594 on: Today at 10:00:30 AM »
Well, I like those plans.  Along with the seat reconfiguration it should take us up to around 50k capacity, which was pretty much what Purslow's plan entailed, but will cost less and not involve us playing in the middle of a building site for 2 years, including our 150th anniversary season and first European Cup campaign in over 40 years.  Villa Live has been replaced with the Warehouse.  It seems to me that we're doing exactly what we were going to do, just in a more efficient & cost-effective way.  Whilst I imagine the ticket prices for the North Stand will go up, I'd expect it'll be by far less than if it was a completely new build stand.

I think importantly, the ground keeps a lot of it's character.  I don't want us playing in some soulless bowl.  I want other club's supporters to come to our ground, and leave wishing their's was 10% of what our's is.

As for 60k capacity, I don't think we need that in the immediate future.  Around 50,000 takes us to the 5th biggest stadium outside of London (behind the 2 Manchester sides, Liverpool, and Newcastle -- but we'd be a comparable size to 115/Geordie Arabia and the other two have been considerably more successful than us during anyone's living memory). Longer term, we could look at filling in the corners at the North Stand end, or rebuilding/remodelling the Witton Lane Stand.
I don't there is a huge problem with leg room in the upper tier and given the plans, it looks unlikely that'll be fixed.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #9595 on: Today at 10:28:05 AM »
I'm a bit puzzled by people saying they like the plans posted, there doesn't look like enough in the way of detail to form a view one way or another.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #9596 on: Today at 10:30:12 AM »
Dunno if anyone's mentioned,but those drawings are from a Grimshaw Jan 23 proposal.

Not sure they are - as that version had the middle Trinity connecting with the new North Stand and didn't include the existing lower tier.

In a project like this one, how would it work? Would Villa, as the client, ask for a few outline drawings and proposals before picking one to go forward with or would that be too expensive? ie could these drawings just be something that was created as an option and shelved?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #9597 on: Today at 10:35:35 AM »
I'm a bit puzzled by people saying they like the plans posted, there doesn't look like enough in the way of detail to form a view one way or another.

Agreed, PW. I think people are just keen to cling on to any “positive” news about the future for all the reasons postulated.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #9598 on: Today at 10:51:44 AM »
I'm a bit puzzled by people saying they like the plans posted, there doesn't look like enough in the way of detail to form a view one way or another.

Agreed, PW. I think people are just keen to cling on to any “positive” news about the future for all the reasons postulated.

My guess is it is one proposal that has been leaked rather what is definitely happening. It may well be confirmed by the club, but so may other options be. Until I see an official announcement, then not going to get hopes up.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #9599 on: Today at 11:01:30 AM »
Can anyone with kids tell me anything positive that has been put in place , following the loss of the fun zone?

Where is fave paintingif it manifested as promised?

Does  anyone have genuine hope for providision for kids?

 


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