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Author Topic: Ollie Watkins  (Read 776861 times)

Offline simboy

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #7590 on: April 03, 2025, 12:43:49 PM »
I agree that he’s probably not in our first XI in the majority of games now. And I’m in love with the man.

I think that's going a bit far. Unless something strange happens, he's playing both legs against PSG. And against Palace. And in the next round of those competitions if we get there.

I would be very surprised if he doesn't, if fit. He is our only "natural" number 9 in the squad, who consistently does all the dirty work a number 9 should do. He always causes trouble to the best centre halves in the country, VVD and Saliba do not have easy games against him. he also possesses pace and when truly on his game, an ability to pick the space to cause the centre halves the most difficulty with space for others to use.

He misses too many chances, which is the difference between him being very good and the golden dogs gonads of a striker. Against that he is the only one getting in the position to miss the bloody chance in the first place. 

 Rashford is more a winger or even an "inside forward" and Asensio wants to play the "10 role".   Ollie got injured before the break, and, I thought, he has been carrying an injury for most of the season.

 I do understand that there has to be progression, which means he will eventually go. If and when he does I would hope that there is a replacement lined up. When he goes, he will go where the club get the best deal be that for PSR reasons or anything else. I think he still has 2 plus years on his contract. It will suit neither the club or him to play silly buggers when the time comes to get rid, what with World Cups on the horizon. 


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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #7591 on: April 03, 2025, 12:47:57 PM »
We've 11-15 games left. If fit Ollie will start most of them. Difference now is that instead it being all about relying on Ollie and Duran scoring we now have numerous threats and can swap things around more. We no longer have to flog Watkins to death as we have previous seasons.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #7592 on: April 03, 2025, 12:52:04 PM »
I agree that he’s probably not in our first XI in the majority of games now. And I’m in love with the man.

I think that's going a bit far. Unless something strange happens, he's playing both legs against PSG. And against Palace. And in the next round of those competitions if we get there.



He misses too many chances, which is the difference between him being very good and the golden dogs gonads of a striker. Against that he is the only one getting in the position to miss the bloody chance in the first place. 


Rather than have a player who misses chances others aren't there to attempt, wouldn't we be better retaining possession until we can work the ball to someone who won't spoon it into the stand or into the grateful arms of the keeper?

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #7593 on: April 03, 2025, 12:54:15 PM »
Quite, and I also think that apart from the finishing his a round game hasn't been up to it, too often the ball comes back at us or the defender wins it back.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #7594 on: April 03, 2025, 01:51:26 PM »
I agree that he’s probably not in our first XI in the majority of games now. And I’m in love with the man.

I think that's going a bit far. Unless something strange happens, he's playing both legs against PSG. And against Palace. And in the next round of those competitions if we get there.



He misses too many chances, which is the difference between him being very good and the golden dogs gonads of a striker. Against that he is the only one getting in the position to miss the bloody chance in the first place. 


Rather than have a player who misses chances others aren't there to attempt, wouldn't we be better retaining possession until we can work the ball to someone who won't spoon it into the stand or into the grateful arms of the keeper?

As a counsel of perfection on FIFA you may be right. In real game time I cannot recall too many when he found someone in a better position and didn't play them in - I think he is our top assist player as well as top goal scorer. 

Let's take the two most recent examples of "glaring" misses. Preston.

the header he missed completely had no one either side of him to take the chance spurned,  and the miss when clean through had most Villa players trailing in his wake by about 25 yards.

On the whole, his decision making is excellent, his execution is lacking.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #7595 on: April 03, 2025, 04:01:31 PM »
We've 11-15 games left. If fit Ollie will start most of them. Difference now is that instead it being all about relying on Ollie and Duran scoring we now have numerous threats and can swap things around more. We no longer have to flog Watkins to death as we have previous seasons.

I don't think we flogged Watkins to death, he's so natural fit, amazingly so, I don't think it's been a problem up until this season where he had a long summer away with England and little time to rest before returning to Bodymoor Heath. That said I fully agree on the point of having others help carry the burden of scoring. The fella desperately needs a big summer break to recover both physically and mentally though I wouldn't rule him out finishing this season on an high. Feast or famine, it's what he does.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #7596 on: April 03, 2025, 04:38:00 PM »
I agree that he’s probably not in our first XI in the majority of games now. And I’m in love with the man.

I think that's going a bit far. Unless something strange happens, he's playing both legs against PSG. And against Palace. And in the next round of those competitions if we get there.



He misses too many chances, which is the difference between him being very good and the golden dogs gonads of a striker. Against that he is the only one getting in the position to miss the bloody chance in the first place. 


Rather than have a player who misses chances others aren't there to attempt, wouldn't we be better retaining possession until we can work the ball to someone who won't spoon it into the stand or into the grateful arms of the keeper?

As a counsel of perfection on FIFA you may be right. In real game time I cannot recall too many when he found someone in a better position and didn't play them in - I think he is our top assist player as well as top goal scorer. 

Let's take the two most recent examples of "glaring" misses. Preston.

the header he missed completely had no one either side of him to take the chance spurned,  and the miss when clean through had most Villa players trailing in his wake by about 25 yards.

On the whole, his decision making is excellent, his execution is lacking.

I don't play FIFA so I don't know. He's constantly shooting from stupid angles when others are better placed.

Edit: I know all strikers do that. It's just he's so...not that good at it.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2025, 04:47:58 PM by Sexual Ealing »

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #7597 on: April 03, 2025, 04:45:43 PM »
I agree that he’s probably not in our first XI in the majority of games now. And I’m in love with the man.
I think that's going a bit far. Unless something strange happens, he's playing both legs against PSG. And against Palace. And in the next round of those competitions if we get there.
What's with the "if"?

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #7598 on: April 03, 2025, 06:38:00 PM »
I agree that he’s probably not in our first XI in the majority of games now. And I’m in love with the man.

I think that's going a bit far. Unless something strange happens, he's playing both legs against PSG. And against Palace. And in the next round of those competitions if we get there.



He misses too many chances, which is the difference between him being very good and the golden dogs gonads of a striker. Against that he is the only one getting in the position to miss the bloody chance in the first place. 


Rather than have a player who misses chances others aren't there to attempt, wouldn't we be better retaining possession until we can work the ball to someone who won't spoon it into the stand or into the grateful arms of the keeper?

As a counsel of perfection on FIFA you may be right. In real game time I cannot recall too many when he found someone in a better position and didn't play them in - I think he is our top assist player as well as top goal scorer. 

Let's take the two most recent examples of "glaring" misses. Preston.

the header he missed completely had no one either side of him to take the chance spurned,  and the miss when clean through had most Villa players trailing in his wake by about 25 yards.

On the whole, his decision making is excellent, his execution is lacking.

I don't play FIFA so I don't know. He's constantly shooting from stupid angles when others are better placed.

Edit: I know all strikers do that. It's just he's so...not that good at it.

hi just to inform for updates it's not actually called FIFA.
It's called EA sports. 
It's like FFP is not the term it's PSR and that thread needs updating but that's another topic.

It's always best to keep things current.


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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #7599 on: April 03, 2025, 06:50:15 PM »
Depends which version you play, it was FIFA for decades before changing 18 months ago. Always best to be accurate and help people to get things right when others are taking bollocks I think.

It's what keeps this place going.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2025, 06:51:55 PM by Drummond »

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #7600 on: April 03, 2025, 06:50:22 PM »
Reboot required on server 357529.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #7601 on: April 03, 2025, 06:53:00 PM »
Reboot required on server 357529.

Anyway, I still play Football Manager. No not that one, the Kevin Toms one.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #7602 on: April 03, 2025, 06:53:32 PM »
Thanks footy. I'll make a note, should I ever start playing computer games, to ensure that they're properly labeled. That said, I'm in Morocco at the moment. I could probably get a copy of FIFFAA from the market for a couple of quid and I'd have to live with the error.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #7603 on: April 03, 2025, 06:58:03 PM »
Reboot required on server 357529.

Anyway, I still play Football Manager. No not that one, the Kevin Toms one.

Sorry Drummond, I was replying to the post above yours.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #7604 on: April 03, 2025, 07:28:10 PM »
Reboot required on server 357529.

Anyway, I still play Football Manager. No not that one, the Kevin Toms one.

Sorry Drummond, I was replying to the post above yours.

I know. I was just carrying on with my own agenda regardless.

 


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