Ollie Watkins

[Nunkin1965]

Set up their goal and missed an absolute sitter from 2 feet today.

He's had a mare today , but in fairness the miss was from 5 feet , not sure how he managed to balloon it so high when the goal was begging .

I think if you’re going to come on and correct people, you have to get your corrections correct.

Anyway, unless the six-yard box has suddenly turned into the six-foot box, he was about five yards out.

Whatever the exact distance the fact is Ollie missed a gilt edged chance to put the game to bed in an almost identical time and place to the one against Brighton where he could of won the game for us. His technique was the same too. Awful. Leaning back and getting a horrible connection. Duran nets both of those chances imo and our season would be looking a bit more rosy.

Add in the sitters he missed vs Arsenal , that should be another 3 points .
NB. I've rewatched the glaring Miss and he's about 13 feet out where he strikes the ball

I don't get the focus on him.
The reason we've not got so many points isn't just down to his scoring ratio.
I'm certainly not going to be critical of someone who has contributed so much.

[pauliewalnuts]

Ollie is clearly a good player and has been very important for us, but should we find ourselves - again - in a situation where we are screwed by PSR this summer and in desperate need of raising a lot of cash to be able to stay legit / improve the wider squad, and assuming Duran isn't flouncing about moving somewhere else (and that's a big 'if' tbh) then I would not be at all surprised if Ollie was the one we moved on.

That a question of age / value / value going forward / pressure of PSR, and not one about him being 'shit' or us not deserving two top level strikers (which we clearly do), it's just the way I think they'd be thinking.

[Olneythelonely]

Whatever the exact distance the fact is Ollie missed a gilt edged chance to put the game to bed in an almost identical time and place to the one against Brighton where he could of won the game for us. His technique was the same too. Awful. Leaning back and getting a horrible connection. Duran nets both of those chances imo and our season would be looking a bit more rosy.

Jhon Duran. The footballer who scores every chance he doesn’t have.

[Rigadon]

Ollie is clearly a good player and has been very important for us, but should we find ourselves - again - in a situation where we are screwed by PSR this summer and in desperate need of raising a lot of cash to be able to stay legit / improve the wider squad, and assuming Duran isn't flouncing about moving somewhere else (and that's a big 'if' tbh) then I would not be at all surprised if Ollie was the one we moved on.

That a question of age / value / value going forward / pressure of PSR, and not one about him being 'shit' or us not deserving two top level strikers (which we clearly do), it's just the way I think they'd be thinking.

I agree on all points, and think the 'ambitions' of Duran will play a massive part in it all.  What would a 29 year old Watkins fetch I wonder?  Probably close to £70-80m after last season, but less now I'd think?

[Deano's Mullet]

Dwight Yorke scored 17 league goals two seasons running and barely was in double figures the third until John Gregory replaced Sir Brian. I don't ever remember him copping as much shit as Ollie has this season. Probably down to the overwhelming increase in social media. If you've gone online end of season 22-23 we seem to have inherited over night a huge amount of whingers and moaners, a lot of whom never popped up before. If we aren't keeping a clean sheet or a striker isn't getting a hat trick every game there is instant call for them to be replaced. If this is our drop off this season and this is as bad as it gets its still a million times better than a lot of top-flight seasons we've had to put up with and there is still 18 games left.  Yes we're going to have stinkers but in perspective only Liverpool, Forest and the Toon have looked convincing this last few months. Let's see where we are in May - I bet Ollies hit that 20 goal barrier again  this year.

[pauliewalnuts]

Ollie is clearly a good player and has been very important for us, but should we find ourselves - again - in a situation where we are screwed by PSR this summer and in desperate need of raising a lot of cash to be able to stay legit / improve the wider squad, and assuming Duran isn't flouncing about moving somewhere else (and that's a big 'if' tbh) then I would not be at all surprised if Ollie was the one we moved on.

That a question of age / value / value going forward / pressure of PSR, and not one about him being 'shit' or us not deserving two top level strikers (which we clearly do), it's just the way I think they'd be thinking.

I agree on all points, and think the 'ambitions' of Duran will play a massive part in it all.  What would a 29 year old Watkins fetch I wonder?  Probably close to £70-80m after last season, but less now I'd think?

Yeah. It's very much tipping point area, 29. There seems to be an exaggerated view of players once they hit 30.

[Deano's Mullet]

Dwight Yorke scored 17 league goals two seasons running and barely was in double figures the third until John Gregory replaced Sir Brian. I don't ever remember him copping as much shit as Ollie has this season. Probably down to the overwhelming increase in social media. If you've gone online end of season since the end of 22-23 we seem to have inherited over night a huge amount of whingers and moaners, a lot of whom never popped up before. If we aren't keeping a clean sheet or a striker isn't getting a hat trick every game there is instant call for them to be replaced. If this is our drop off this season and this is as bad as it gets its still a million times better than a lot of top-flight seasons we've had to put up with and there is still 18 games left.  Yes we're going to have stinkers but in perspective only Liverpool, Forest and the Toon have looked convincing this last few months. Let's see where we are in May - I bet Ollies hit that 20 goal barrier again  this year.

[LeeB]

'Almost forgive' isn't excuse making, and the point was about how bad Buendia's attempt was.

Fair enough, Buendia never got hold of his shot at all. Put on a plate for him too. He had three good chances (Buendia). Game had opened up at that point but he did get into good positions. I'm not sure Tielemans has a proper effort at goal in the same position.

I think Buendia might be the single most frustrating player I've seen in a Villa shirt, so much to like about him but so erratic, and not from game to game but within them.

[john e]

We arn’t going to do any better than Ollie Watkins

he is now our number 2 back up centre forward Durán is way clear of him in most attributes of what you want from a striker
but Ollie is worth keeping if we can because we will struggle to find better as a no 2

[Rigadon]

We arn’t going to do any better than Ollie Watkins

he is now our number 2 back up centre forward Durán is way clear of him in most attributes of what you want from a striker
but Ollie is worth keeping if we can because we will struggle to find better as a no 2

If we can keep them both, we absolutely should.  But I think it's unlikely that either will accept playing second fiddle next season, and it's pretty much guaranteed they would both go for big money and be in high demand.  If forced to choose, I'd keep Duran if he is motivated and happy to be here and I've changed my opinion over the last month or so on that.   

[AV82EC]

Whatever the exact distance the fact is Ollie missed a gilt edged chance to put the game to bed in an almost identical time and place to the one against Brighton where he could of won the game for us. His technique was the same too. Awful. Leaning back and getting a horrible connection. Duran nets both of those chances imo and our season would be looking a bit more rosy.

Jhon Duran. The footballer who scores every chance he doesn’t have.

Good Lord anyone criticises the Sainted Duran for every chance he’s missed this year as well. Fuck me it’s as if he’s the second coming of a Yorke/Benteke hybrid. He’s a fucking good footballer but infallible with a 100% conversion rate, I don’t think so.

[The Edge]

Whatever the exact distance the fact is Ollie missed a gilt edged chance to put the game to bed in an almost identical time and place to the one against Brighton where he could of won the game for us. His technique was the same too. Awful. Leaning back and getting a horrible connection. Duran nets both of those chances imo and our season would be looking a bit more rosy.

Jhon Duran. The footballer who scores every chance he doesn’t have.

Good Lord anyone criticises the Sainted Duran for every chance he’s missed this year as well. Fuck me it’s as if he’s the second coming of a Yorke/Benteke hybrid. He’s a fucking good footballer but infallible with a 100% conversion rate, I don’t think so.

All I'm saying is in my opinion Duran would of taken both those chances.

[Dave]

Duran's chance against Bournemouth was a much easier chance than Ollie's against Brighton.

And he missed that one.

[AV82EC]

Whatever the exact distance the fact is Ollie missed a gilt edged chance to put the game to bed in an almost identical time and place to the one against Brighton where he could of won the game for us. His technique was the same too. Awful. Leaning back and getting a horrible connection. Duran nets both of those chances imo and our season would be looking a bit more rosy.

Jhon Duran. The footballer who scores every chance he doesn’t have.

Good Lord anyone criticises the Sainted Duran for every chance he’s missed this year as well. Fuck me it’s as if he’s the second coming of a Yorke/Benteke hybrid. He’s a fucking good footballer but infallible with a 100% conversion rate, I don’t think so.

All I'm saying is in my opinion Duran would of taken both those chances.

So let’s use the hypothetical if my auntie had ball's she’d be my uncle as a stick to beat Ollie Watkins with. OK.

[Olneythelonely]

Duran's chance against Bournemouth was a much easier chance than Ollie's against Brighton.

And he missed that one.

It’s the chances he doesn’t get that he definitely scores Dave.