Ollie Watkins

[Footy-Vill]

Manchester United are planning an "audacious" move for Ollie Watkins I hear.

What ?
Is the PSR and squad cost control ratio?
Why sell Watkins ?
What's the rumour exactly !??

[Olneythelonely]

Manchester United are planning an "audacious" move for Ollie Watkins I hear.

What ?
Is the PSR and squad cost control ratio?
Why sell Watkins ?
What's the rumour exactly !??

You’re over-egging this particular character this evening.

[astonvilla82]

One of gary neville or carra picked Ollie in their team of the season, above that citeh dude with the bun.
They had a heated debate about it. I was very, very drunk.

Danny Murphy picked him also I believe

[Stu]

Foden wins player of the season. Feels a bit rough on Ollie, I’m not sure he could have done much more.

[pablo_picasso]

Foden wins player of the season. Feels a bit rough on Ollie, I’m not sure he could have done much more.

Ridiculous. Foden is a super little player & all that, even if he does go hiding when playing for England, but Watkins has been at a different level this year, not just in terms of goals & assists...

[Rigadon]

Foden wins player of the season. Feels a bit rough on Ollie, I’m not sure he could have done much more.

Well, I think the obvious thing he could have done is to have played for a different club.  If he'd have had the same season at Man Utd he'd have been a shoe-in, cast iron, guaranteed winner and the likes of the fucking Sun would be touting him to play instead of Kane at the Euros.  It's all to sell papers / advertising of course, but it has a real world impact.

I'm sure this isn't lost on players, which is another reason why they very often get their heads turned.  If we'd have finished with about 6 less points, I'd be almost certain we'd be losing Watkins, Emi and possibly Luiz and McGinn.  THIS is why qualifying for the champions league is more important than anything else at this stage in our development.  West Ham might've been able to hold onto Rice had they done so, rather than winning the Conference League, which was nice and all but ultimately irrelevant in terms of player turn over. 

[Sexual Ealing]

I don't think many non-Villa people will be outraged at Foden winning it. Watkins has had a great season by his (and our) standards, but Foden's on another level as a player.

[Risso]

I don't think many non-Villa people will be outraged at Foden winning it. Watkins has had a great season by his (and our) standards, but Foden's on another level as a player.

Agreed, Foden's probably the best English player there is.

[Rigadon]

He's not on another level at all, in my opinion.  He's different kind of player obviously, and has had a good season too.  My point is that it matters who you play for when it comes to awards like these.

[Sexual Ealing]

He's not on another level at all, in my opinion.  He's different kind of player obviously, and has had a good season too.  My point is that it matters who you play for when it comes to awards like these.

It does. Playing for a team that's going to win the league - in large part because of your performances - makes you more likely to win it. That doesn't seem like a travesty of justice to me.

[Monty]

I love us. It's not enough that one of our players has been so good as to be nominated for player of the actual season - if he doesn't win it, there's a conspiracy afoot!

[Rigadon]

It's not a travesty or a conspiracy (I never said it was).  It's just the way it is, which was the gist of my point - players playing at more fashionable clubs are recognised before those at other clubs. I'm not sure this is a controversial perspective, certainly Emi Martinez said pretty much the same thing about 3 weeks ago.

I'm never completely blown away by Foden when I've seen him play, so I don't think he's on a whole other level, personally.  He's also playing in possibly the best club side in the world. So I suppose it's whether you think his contribution in that team, is more impressive on a personal level, than Watkins' in a much less star-studded Villa side?  I haven't seen enough of Foden to have a strong opinion of whole season impacts on his team.

[PeterWithesShin]

Whoever wins the league will almost certainly be manager of the year. Emery has by far achieved more than them this season though. And i'd think that if I supported another club.

[AV84]

The Sky Saturday socials thing had an awards segment this morning and I think they all went for different managers. Not that their opinions count for much, given the Arsenal fan gave nearly every award to an Arsenal player, including this one to Arteta. One guy went for the Luton manager, and one went for Emery. He made the point that he still hasn't signed that many first team players, and that he's outclassed the teams below us who've spent billions on players. 

But yeah, generally speaking there's definitely a success/recency bias for these kinds of things.

[PaulWinch again]

I don't think many non-Villa people will be outraged at Foden winning it. Watkins has had a great season by his (and our) standards, but Foden's on another level as a player.

Agreed, Foden's probably the best English player there is.

Yep Ollie has done brilliantly and got a very deserved nomination, but of the nominees I think Foden is probably right. I would have picked Rodri, but bizarrely he wasn’t nominated.