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Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5025 on: April 14, 2024, 10:20:44 PM »
Southgate should take both, or Ollie and Solanke. Most likely he'll take one and Rashford. Which is why he's a twat and England won't win.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5026 on: April 14, 2024, 10:25:01 PM »
Agreed. He will definitely take that big nosed twat Rashford on no logical basis other than favouritism and red filth bias.

Oh and being a shit coach

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5027 on: April 14, 2024, 10:30:41 PM »
I don’t think Rashford should go, but “big nosed twat” really? He generally seems alright to me, not least the stuff he’s done to push politicians.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5028 on: April 14, 2024, 10:38:51 PM »
I don't know why Toney's ability to take a penalty is seen as a selling point. Kane is going to play all the games anyway. The only time a penalty taker other than him will matter is in a shootout, and there's a match day squad of players to choose from in that situation.

Worst cast scenario is Kane gets injured and can't play at all, in which case Ollie has to be the better option.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5029 on: April 14, 2024, 10:44:34 PM »
We already know form doesn’t matter when it comes to Southgate selecting his players.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5030 on: April 14, 2024, 10:47:28 PM »
Worst cast scenario is Kane gets injured and can't play at all, in which case Ollie has to be the better option.

He's not necessarily the better option. He's definitely the better player, but it's (a) not a surprise that England play a system that is designed to play to the strengths of one of the top two or three strikers in the world and (b) not silly to pick the best replacement for the system rather than ripping it all up to play to the strengths of a striker that plays in a different way.

As has been said, it makes sense to take three strikers not two and have a different way of playing. But it's a perfectly coherent position to think that Toney is a better fit for England's style than Watkins is.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5031 on: April 14, 2024, 10:48:31 PM »
Ollie is a definite, and I'd have Rashford because he's already been to these tournaments and that's a handy thing to have. Taking Toney because he can take a penalty is an admission we don't have enough confidence to win games before a shoot-out, because Kane takes England's penalties.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5032 on: April 14, 2024, 10:50:01 PM »
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Aston Villa goalkeeper Emi Martinez believes team-mate Ollie Watkins should win Premier League player of the season.

The striker's 19th league goal of the campaign clinched a 2-0 win at title-chasing Arsenal to boost Villa's hopes of Champions League qualification.

Watkins is just one goal behind Manchester City's Erling Haaland in the race for the golden boot.

"He should be a really, really good contender," Martinez told Sky Sports.

Watkins has led the charge for Unai Emery's side, who are now fourth with five matches left - three points clear of Tottenham, who have a game in hand.

His tally this campaign matches the best-ever for a Villa player in the Premier League era, while the England international, 28, is also joint-top for top-flight assists with 10.

"I think Ollie should win player of the season," added Martinez.

"When you play for a 'big six' side, you get more credit but Ollie has scored 19 goals with the chances he's got."

Although Watkins played down Martinez's suggestion, there is one individual award that he is giving his all to win.

"As a striker, you want to score as many goals as possible," he told BBC Match of the Day.

"I'm not going to lie, I'm chasing that, I'm doing all that I can to help the team to win and for me to score as many goals and assists to my team-mates as possible. I definitely have my eyes on the golden boot."

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5033 on: April 14, 2024, 10:50:22 PM »
And yet as brilliant as Kane is supposed to be, he has only score one goal, that being from the spot, against the top 6 teams in the world. 

I agree with Dave, due to the way Southgate sets us up, Ollie Watkins cannot be read when he plays for England. 

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« Reply #5034 on: April 14, 2024, 10:56:37 PM »
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As a striker, you want to score as many goals as possible. I'm not going to lie, I'm chasing that, I'm doing all that I can to help the team to win and for me to score as many goals and assists to my teammates as possible. I definitely have my eyes on the golden boot. I'm not going to lie to you.....Ollie Watkins

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/soccer/i-have-my-eyes-on-the-golden-boot/ar-BB1lBIZX


Haaland  20
Ollie       19
Salah     17
Solanke  17
Isak       17

80/81  Peter Withe was equal top with Steve Archibald
76/77  Andy Gray was equal top with Malcolm McDonald
30/31  Pongo was top outright

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5035 on: April 14, 2024, 10:58:18 PM »
Kane is a top striker, I don’t think there can be any real debate about that.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5036 on: April 14, 2024, 11:02:58 PM »
In any case, if there is one other striker in the squad it has to be Ollie.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5037 on: April 14, 2024, 11:10:04 PM »
It's funny because in the past I've been frustrated with Watkins because he's missed 1 on 1 chances that I felt were very scorable.But today in his chance late on it looked pretty awkward but he dinked it in beautifully.

Basically Watkins is like Villa. He likes to do things the hard way.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5038 on: April 14, 2024, 11:25:46 PM »
It's funny because in the past I've been frustrated with Watkins because he's missed 1 on 1 chances that I felt were very scorable.But today in his chance late on it looked pretty awkward but he dinked it in beautifully.

Basically Watkins is like Villa. He likes to do things the hard way.
Got deflected slightly but yeah.

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Re: Division One top scorer
« Reply #5039 on: April 14, 2024, 11:34:16 PM »
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As a striker, you want to score as many goals as possible. I'm not going to lie, I'm chasing that, I'm doing all that I can to help the team to win and for me to score as many goals and assists to my teammates as possible. I definitely have my eyes on the golden boot. I'm not going to lie to you.....Ollie Watkins

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/soccer/i-have-my-eyes-on-the-golden-boot/ar-BB1lBIZX


Haaland  20
Ollie       19
Salah     17
Solanke  17
Isak       17

80/81  Peter Withe was equal top with Steve Archibald
76/77  Andy Gray was equal top with Malcolm McDonald
30/31  Pongo was top outright

Mods please move to Heroes Discussion if considered appropriate.

I remember Andy Gray’s hat-trick against the Albion in the last game of the season to catch MacDonald up. We finished fourth with Liverpool and Man City being two of those above us and Newcastle and Man Utd just below us. And we won a cup too. Memorable season and a fantastic team to watch.

 


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