Ollie Watkins

[TonyD]

Nothing good comes of our players playing for the gobshite Gareth.   

[eamonn]

Unlucky with that chance in the first half. Had the right idea to dink the ball over the goalie but on his left-foot maybe he lacked a bit of confidence.

[tomd2103]

Unlucky with that chance in the first half. Had the right idea to dink the ball over the goalie but on his left-foot maybe he lacked a bit of confidence.

Just seen it again on MOTD.  He set it up nicely to hit it with his right foot, but then switched it ti his left.

[Somniloquism]

I wonder if he was feeling the leg then?

[tomd2103]

I wonder if he was feeling the leg then?

Yeah, could have been.  Especially as he looked like he'd got it set up nicely on his right.

[Rory]

Nothing good comes of our players playing for the gobshite Gareth.

Or any England manager for 30 years or so.

It means they're either going to fuck up (Southgate's penalty, Carson vs Croatia), leave within about 18 months (Young, Barry, Milner, Downing) or turn to shit (Gabby).

I'm surprised more players don't deaf it out altogether. Pulling on an England (or Ireland, for that matter) football shirt would fill me with about as much pride as wearing a Halfords uniform.

[edgysatsuma89]

Nothing good comes of our players playing for the gobshite Gareth.

Or any England manager for 30 years or so.

It means they're either going to fuck up (Southgate's penalty, Carson vs Croatia), leave within about 18 months (Young, Barry, Milner, Downing) or turn to shit (Gabby).

I'm surprised more players don't deaf it out altogether. Pulling on an England (or Ireland, for that matter) football shirt would fill me with about as much pride as wearing a Halfords uniform.

I think Ben White agrees. I've always wondered how bothered I would be if I was a professional. I don't think I would be but it's easy for me to say knowing that will never be tested.

[Rory]

Nothing good comes of our players playing for the gobshite Gareth.

Or any England manager for 30 years or so.

It means they're either going to fuck up (Southgate's penalty, Carson vs Croatia), leave within about 18 months (Young, Barry, Milner, Downing) or turn to shit (Gabby).

I'm surprised more players don't deaf it out altogether. Pulling on an England (or Ireland, for that matter) football shirt would fill me with about as much pride as wearing a Halfords uniform.

I think Ben White agrees. I've always wondered how bothered I would be if I was a professional. I don't think I would be but it's easy for me to say knowing that will never be tested.

I think I would hint that it was a no in advance, as far as possible. But if I were a professional footballer I'd be significantly thicker, so I guess it's hard to say.

[Martyn Smith]

The St George Cross debate highlighted why I hate international football. Too much jingoistic right-wing bandwagon jumping twattery. Hopefully more players will follow White's example and the whole nonsense will fizzle away...

[Rory]

The St George Cross debate highlighted why I hate international football. Too much jingoistic right-wing bandwagon jumping twattery. Hopefully more players will follow White's example and the whole nonsense will fizzle away...

I agree, Martyn.

Not all England fans are like that, obviously, but there are enough to put me off.

[PhilVill]

To play the devil's advocate, I'm not too sure Nike would have fucked around with many other flags so I can understand why a few peeps got a bit hot under the collar. Mind you, the bigger story was the  price of it in my view.

[Villafirst]

More important is Ollie's hamstring issue. According to reports he wanted to carry on in the second half but the Doctor advised caution, hence why he didn't appear after the break. It doesn't sound too serious, fingers crossed.

[Meanwood Villa]

There are some exceptions but the vast majority of players want international recognition. It may not be the pinnacle of the game it once was but it is still an honour and an achievement. I'm chuffed for Ollie and Ezri they have got their caps, they will be proud looking back on them when they've retired, hopefully alongside the Conference League Trophy and more honours (with us). Players going elsewhere after getting capped isn't the fault of international football, it's the fault of economic, and therefore competitive, inequality within the club game.

On another note, weekends like the last one are extremely tedious but you still can't beat an international tournament for a jamboree of football. Tell the 20 plus man pile ons after crucial goals that it doesn't matter.

[Demitri_C]

If it was a precaution right decision

Dibt risk him for citeh - get him fit for brentford

[nigel]

If it was a precaution right decision

Dibt risk him for citeh - get him fit for brentford

The Ollie vrs Ivan derby