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Online PaulWinch again

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3930 on: October 09, 2023, 05:10:28 PM »
We will be talking about the exact same faults with Watkins in 12 months time, we need a serious upgrade.

How about all the vital bits he brings to the team?

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3931 on: October 09, 2023, 05:29:14 PM »
I find his inconsistent "feast or famine" form very frustrating.

When he is on his game, he is brilliant. His work rate, selfless running, closing down, etc, are invaluable.

When he adds goals & a first touch that is decent, he is pretty much unplayable.

But when he is off it, granted he still works hard, makes selfless runs & closes down, etc, & that is invaluable, but when he misses simple chances that he was banging away a couple of weeks previous, or his touch is that of a small garden trampoline, I find it infuriating & frustrating why he swings so wildly with the basics of his role.

If he didn't work hard, no matter what, I would want to sell him.

As it stands, I would love to keep him, but I would also love to bring in a strong, tall & pacy striker to compete with him for the starting spot, as well as offering us something different up top. (Although Duran might be that guy.)

And if we find another "I didn't want Ings here as competition" situation, then he will have to suck it up & accept that he is a footballer in a squad game.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3932 on: October 10, 2023, 12:31:12 PM »
He scores goals and provides assists. He works hard and defends from the front. Plus he's top of the Fantasy stats this season too. ;-)

Offline Rigadon

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3933 on: October 10, 2023, 12:51:04 PM »
Difficult to see us getting a striker that's better than Watkins without CL football. 

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3934 on: October 10, 2023, 01:00:51 PM »
His form since last November has been exceptional and he’s topping the goals/assists chart in that period. That’s a long time to be in form. I wouldn’t say that’s inconsistent.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3935 on: October 10, 2023, 01:05:30 PM »
I think the "feast or famine" nature of his scoring just means that you have to judge a player over a longer period of time.

Watkins numbers last season were alright but he hadn't (I'm pretty sure) scored yet at this point last year.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3936 on: October 10, 2023, 01:16:34 PM »
Those poor stats before Emery could be used on most of our players. I’d rather look at the form since Emery has been here.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3937 on: October 10, 2023, 01:16:37 PM »
Kane did not score at the weekend and was eventually subbed - do you think the Germans think he is shit?

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3938 on: October 10, 2023, 01:31:19 PM »
Those poor stats before Emery could be used on most of our players. I’d rather look at the form since Emery has been here.

It's the same thing though. He scored the vast majority, if not all, of his goals last season under Emery. And he still went for a few games at a time without scoring any. But at the end of the season his stats are good. Even now, he's scored 4, but his assists and other stats are great.  And that adds to the goals coming from other people, which is what matters at the end of the day. Goals.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3939 on: October 10, 2023, 01:39:57 PM »
Difficult to see us getting a striker that's better than Watkins without CL football.

Don't really see who it is, even with Champions League football.

There are players out there who could potentially be better, but the list in his postition who definitely would be is what, Haaland, Kane and Osimhen?

There are far more teams who need a great striker than there are great strikers at the moment.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3940 on: October 10, 2023, 02:03:37 PM »
We will be talking about the exact same faults with Watkins in 12 months time, we need a serious upgrade.

Who do you think the serious upgrade on Watkins is that we should be going for?

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3941 on: October 10, 2023, 03:00:41 PM »
Those poor stats before Emery could be used on most of our players. I’d rather look at the form since Emery has been here.

It's the same thing though. He scored the vast majority, if not all, of his goals last season under Emery. And he still went for a few games at a time without scoring any. But at the end of the season his stats are good. Even now, he's scored 4, but his assists and other stats are great.  And that adds to the goals coming from other people, which is what matters at the end of the day. Goals.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3942 on: October 10, 2023, 03:18:28 PM »
Those poor stats before Emery could be used on most of our players. I’d rather look at the form since Emery has been here.

It's the same thing though. He scored the vast majority, if not all, of his goals last season under Emery. And he still went for a few games at a time without scoring any. But at the end of the season his stats are good. Even now, he's scored 4, but his assists and other stats are great.  And that adds to the goals coming from other people, which is what matters at the end of the day. Goals.

Seven.

In the league, should have specified. I was comparing to last season, where we didn't have European games.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3943 on: October 10, 2023, 03:19:37 PM »
Kane did not score at the weekend and was eventually subbed - do you think the Germans think he is shit?

Kane won't go on a barren run of not scoring for the next two months.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3944 on: October 10, 2023, 03:23:29 PM »
Kane did not score at the weekend and was eventually subbed - do you think the Germans think he is shit?

Kane won't go on a barren run of not scoring for the next two months.

Bet you Ollie doesn't either.

 


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