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Offline Risso

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3915 on: October 09, 2023, 10:21:55 AM »
Willing runner and worker is Ollie. Always gives a lot to the side. We have to embrace his positives but having a killer instinct is not one.
Or first touch. His mis control yesterday was pub league level.

There was that really nice long pass to him in space yesterday, but his first touch took it 8 feet away from him, giving it to the defender. It's stufff like that that's really frustrating.

Offline Richard

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3916 on: October 09, 2023, 11:05:24 AM »
I love Watkins, mis control or not. Unlucky with both the shot and header that book ended the second half. Great pass for our goal. Who do people think we could get better realistically?

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3917 on: October 09, 2023, 11:22:07 AM »
I love Watkins, mis control or not. Unlucky with both the shot and header that book ended the second half. Great pass for our goal. Who do people think we could get better realistically?

We probably couldn't but he's not above criticism, he should have done better with that  header, at least hit the target.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3918 on: October 09, 2023, 11:32:13 AM »
I thought Watkins did well yesterday considering he had been entered into an all-in wrestling competition as well as a football match.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3919 on: October 09, 2023, 12:45:41 PM »
Willing runner and worker is Ollie. Always gives a lot to the side. We have to embrace his positives but having a killer instinct is not one.
Or first touch. His mis control yesterday was pub league level.

There was that really nice long pass to him in space yesterday, but his first touch took it 8 feet away from him, giving it to the defender. It's stufff like that that's really frustrating.

I think it's more frustrating because there are a lot of occasions where his first touch and control are great.

Online Sexual Ealing

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3920 on: October 09, 2023, 12:52:43 PM »
He's not quite good enough, which mirrors us as a club. I suspect it'll be easier for him to improve than it will be for us.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3921 on: October 09, 2023, 12:57:17 PM »
He's not quite good enough, which mirrors us as a club. I suspect it'll be easier for him to improve than it will be for us.

He is and he will improve too.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3922 on: October 09, 2023, 01:12:45 PM »
That first effort was a brilliant save and he was so unlucky. Also he screamed the post. That could have been a brace quite easily on another day. It wasn’t one of his better games as we seemed to resort to hurling it into the box but he still was a threat.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3923 on: October 09, 2023, 01:52:27 PM »
That last header at the death will haunt him I'd imagine.  It's not all that often after a big miss that you can say "if that goes in, we DEFINITELY win the match", but that was the case yesterday.

It wasn't a difficult chance, and definitely the sort of chance he needs to be taking if he's going to become a 20+ a season goal scorer.

As others have said, I actually try not to worry too much about his misses, because he brings so much else to the team.  It's frustrating, yes, but I still think we're a better team with him in it.  If a genuine guaranteed upgrade on him arrives in the next couple of years, he's going to be VERY expensive, or we're going to get INCREDIBLY lucky with our youth development.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3924 on: October 09, 2023, 03:07:54 PM »
Wolves made the game messy and disjointed, defending deep and crowding space.  Even so, as Ian says, he had two excellent efforts and a shout for a penalty.  He possibly tried too hard to direct the header, he had such power on it Sa would have done well to get anything on it wherever he placed it.   It may not have been an electrifying performance, but even so, I think that's a decent day at the office.

It's frustrating when our strikers miss chances and I've certainly been critical of Ollie in the past.  But every striker misses chances, even Haaland - we're just more attuned when ours do.  I personally think he's playing pretty well and am delighted he signed the contract.     

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3925 on: October 09, 2023, 03:50:52 PM »
We will be talking about the exact same faults with Watkins in 12 months time, we need a serious upgrade.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3926 on: October 09, 2023, 04:02:49 PM »
We will be talking about the exact same faults with Watkins in 12 months time, we need a serious upgrade.
Out of interest, which strikers currently in the PL would you consider to be a serious upgrade on Watkins?  There's a few I like, but not many better at what he does for us nor many with a better goal scoring record.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3927 on: October 09, 2023, 04:02:56 PM »
We will be talking about the exact same faults with Watkins in 12 months time, we need a serious upgrade.

As others have pointed out, the "serious upgrade" will either have to be someone coming through the youth and able to make the leap to keeping the scoring going at the top level, or doing a Salah and getting someone who was a goal between 2-3 games, but who then becomes a goal every 1-2 games striker.

My personal opinion is it would need to be one of these 10 players to be a "serious upgrade".


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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3928 on: October 09, 2023, 04:05:28 PM »
As PWS posted earlier on in the thread, statistically the only premier league forwards out performing Ollie Watkins for goals and assists. Haaland and Salah. That’s it.
He’s not perfect, he’s not one of the worlds top strikers. But he’s really really good.

Offline Paul.S

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3929 on: October 09, 2023, 04:08:41 PM »
We will be talking about the exact same faults with Watkins in 12 months time, we need a serious upgrade.

A serious upgrade would cost us £100m in todays game. It’s not happening anytime soon.

 


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