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Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3735 on: October 03, 2023, 01:59:40 PM »
I hate the fact the fat waster Gabby is our all time leading PL scorer, I hope Ollie stays and smashes that one.

He's nowhere near the top of being our all time leading scorer.

He's 11th.

I don't care about this "Premier League era only" nonsense that some modern day fans & media seem obsessed with.

Our top scorer is Bill Walker & Gabriel Agbonlahor is nowhere near his tally, even with the change in the name of the league...

Offline Meanwood Villa

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3736 on: October 03, 2023, 02:09:00 PM »
See my post on previous page, he's not even 11th

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3737 on: October 03, 2023, 02:18:21 PM »
Who was Dicky York? The original Dwight Yorke?!

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3738 on: October 03, 2023, 02:33:47 PM »
Given our history, it’s amazing only 4 players have ever scored more than 100 league goals for us and no-one has got anywhere near since Johnny Dixon.

Gabby should have easily passed that mark. Only 13 goals in his last 5 seasons with us!

The thing is, had his career progressed and he'd not become a fat lazy bastard we'd have probably flogged him like we did anyone else that was half decent.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3739 on: October 03, 2023, 02:48:00 PM »
First Villa player to score two hat tricks in a season since Andy Gray in 76/77 . And it's only beginning of October!

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3740 on: October 03, 2023, 03:12:38 PM »
First Villa player to score two hat tricks in a season since Andy Gray in 76/77 . And it's only beginning of October!

Yeah but the Hibs game was a glorified friendly.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3741 on: October 03, 2023, 03:18:25 PM »
First Villa player to score two hat tricks in a season since Andy Gray in 76/77 . And it's only beginning of October!

Yeah but the Hibs game was a glorified friendly.

I know, when I saw the stat it took me forever to figure out what other one they were referring to. Still counts though!

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3742 on: October 03, 2023, 03:25:20 PM »
I hate the fact the fat waster Gabby is our all time leading PL scorer, I hope Ollie stays and smashes that one.

He's nowhere near the top of being our all time leading scorer.

He's 11th.

I don't care about this "Premier League era only" nonsense that some modern day fans & media seem obsessed with.

Our top scorer is Bill Walker & Gabriel Agbonlahor is nowhere near his tally, even with the change in the name of the league...

I mostly agree with the sentiment but I do also think that the game has changed so much in even the last 30 years that it's hard to compare players from now to the first few Premier League seasons so there are times when it makes sense to limit things.

Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3743 on: October 03, 2023, 03:46:33 PM »
I hate the fact the fat waster Gabby is our all time leading PL scorer, I hope Ollie stays and smashes that one.

He's nowhere near the top of being our all time leading scorer.

He's 11th.

I don't care about this "Premier League era only" nonsense that some modern day fans & media seem obsessed with.

Our top scorer is Bill Walker & Gabriel Agbonlahor is nowhere near his tally, even with the change in the name of the league...

I mostly agree with the sentiment but I do also think that the game has changed so much in even the last 30 years that it's hard to compare players from now to the first few Premier League seasons so there are times when it makes sense to limit things.

I see your point, albeit Im not fully in board with it.

The problem is, how the game is perceived to have changed is pretty subjective.

One could argue that technique & tactics are far more advanced now, so its more difficult to score in the modern game.

But then one could also argue that playing in old style boots on pitches that could grow potato's on with a football as heavy as a medicine ball made it more difficult to score back in the day.

But its subjective either way in regards to how much more difficult it either is, or was.

So for me, we can only count from the beginning & compare from the start, but also accept that the game evolves, along with technology, so there are, & were, different challenges to overcome in all periods of the game.

Plus, I despise the fact that Sky Sports News thinks that football only existed when they became interested.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2023, 03:50:40 PM by pablo_picasso »

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3744 on: October 03, 2023, 03:57:21 PM »
That Drummond list misses out some players, Brian Little is another.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3746 on: October 03, 2023, 04:10:01 PM »
I hate the fact the fat waster Gabby is our all time leading PL scorer, I hope Ollie stays and smashes that one.

He's nowhere near the top of being our all time leading scorer.

He's 11th.

I don't care about this "Premier League era only" nonsense that some modern day fans & media seem obsessed with.

Our top scorer is Bill Walker & Gabriel Agbonlahor is nowhere near his tally, even with the change in the name of the league...

I mostly agree with the sentiment but I do also think that the game has changed so much in even the last 30 years that it's hard to compare players from now to the first few Premier League seasons so there are times when it makes sense to limit things.

Limiting it to top flight league games would be a start.  It's one of the reason I give little credence to International goal scoring stats.  Playing against Monaco or Andora can massage those stats greatly.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3747 on: October 03, 2023, 05:21:11 PM »
I got it from here: https://www.worldfootball.net/alltime_goalgetter/eng-premier-league/tore/aston-villa/1/

This might be more accurate?

https://www.avfchistory.co.uk/aston-villa-player-goal-records



That looks more accurate. Now can you take the time to sort it on top flight goals only? 😉

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3748 on: October 03, 2023, 05:22:53 PM »
First Villa player to score two hat tricks in a season since Andy Gray in 76/77 . And it's only beginning of October!

Yeah but the Hibs game was a glorified friendly.

It really wasn't. Just because we won comfortably doesn't mean it wasn't a competitive game.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2023, 06:17:25 PM by Meanwood Villa »

Offline Nunkin1965

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3749 on: October 03, 2023, 06:01:54 PM »
Nice to have a striker banging in goals though.
Well done Ollie and long may it continue.

 


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