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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3525 on: September 17, 2023, 08:05:37 PM »
Did Watkins celebrate our equaliser or did he keep away from the huddle? Whatever, beats Boubacar Kamara's bored-looking frowny face on the bench after he was subbed off!

Watkins took the ball to restart the game after the equaliser, and he was over celebrating with Luiz at the corner flag for the winner.

Also I noticed he got himself into a very good position in case Luiz missed and it rebounded, he and Diaby both were chasing that up.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3526 on: September 17, 2023, 08:07:46 PM »
Diaby encroached for the pen and we got away with it

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3527 on: September 17, 2023, 08:09:31 PM »
Diaby encroached for the pen and we got away with it

Someone in the match thread posted a thing that says they only punish for that if the ball actually comes back out.

But I did notice Luiz's run up caught both Diaby and Watkins out. Watkins managed to stop himself though.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3528 on: September 17, 2023, 08:21:39 PM »
Diaby encroached for the pen and we got away with it

Someone in the match thread posted a thing that says they only punish for that if the ball actually comes back out.

But I did notice Luiz's run up caught both Diaby and Watkins out. Watkins managed to stop himself though.

That's not right, VAR can only look at encroachment if the player encroaching has a material impact on the goal being scored/saved.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3529 on: September 17, 2023, 08:41:13 PM »
Diaby encroached for the pen and we got away with it

Someone in the match thread posted a thing that says they only punish for that if the ball actually comes back out.

But I did notice Luiz's run up caught both Diaby and Watkins out. Watkins managed to stop himself though.

That's not right, VAR can only look at encroachment if the player encroaching has a material impact on the goal being scored/saved.

TBF it was right next to the ref and he waved the protesting defender away. So it was ref's decision on Encroachment. What might have saved Diaby was he stopped and back pedalled. If he had continued forward he might have been called on it. (Although to be fair, if he had continued forward he would have caught the ball in the goal behind the keeper. )

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3530 on: September 17, 2023, 09:30:37 PM »
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That's not right, VAR can only look at encroachment if the player encroaching has a material impact on the goal being scor
TBF it was right next to the ref and he waved the protesting defender away. So it was ref's decision on Encroachment. What might have saved Diaby was he stopped and back pedalled. If he had continued forward he might have been called on it. (Although to be fair, if he had continued forward he would have caught the ball in the goal behind the keeper. )
There was no encroachment because Dougie scored.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3531 on: September 17, 2023, 10:01:28 PM »
My lad bought himself some Match Attax football cards today. He's over the moon with his Watkins Golden Baller card which is very very rare apparently.

It has Watkins with full marks for Attack, Defence and Control.....

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3532 on: September 17, 2023, 10:03:12 PM »
I remember a pen against Norwich away many moons ago on New Year’s Day where we scored but had to be retaken because one of our defender’s big toe’s was deemed over the line. The retaken pen was missed or saved. We lost and it was probably the most miserable I’d ever felt and wished I was somewhere else with the thought of the long drive back. No A14 in those days but the effect of a heavy New Year’s eve celebrations still lingering.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3533 on: September 17, 2023, 10:09:52 PM »
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That's not right, VAR can only look at encroachment if the player encroaching has a material impact on the goal being scor
TBF it was right next to the ref and he waved the protesting defender away. So it was ref's decision on Encroachment. What might have saved Diaby was he stopped and back pedalled. If he had continued forward he might have been called on it. (Although to be fair, if he had continued forward he would have caught the ball in the goal behind the keeper. )
There was no encroachment because Dougie scored.

An attacking player encroaching is still encroaching whether the goal is scored. I can't see anything on the rules stating Encroachment doesn't count if a goal is scored unless it is a defending team encroaching and a goal has been scored. As Risso mentioned, VAR does not recheck if the goal goes straight in, only on someone scoring / clearing on a follow up action.  it is up to the on field officials to decide encroachment otherwise.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3534 on: September 17, 2023, 10:30:19 PM »
My lad bought himself some Match Attax football cards today. He's over the moon with his Watkins Golden Baller card which is very very rare apparently.

It has Watkins with full marks for Attack, Defence and Control.....

Control wasn't bad for the play that won the game winning penalty.

With that chance in the first half Johnstone, and most of the fans behind the goal, knew where he going to put that shot. Kind of happens when a forward is low in confidence that they signpost where they will shoot just to get it on target. Needed to shape like Luiz for the penalty and put it into the near side of the goal. He was very unfortunate with that chip too hitting the inside of the post and bouncing off back of the keepers head. The goals will come.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3535 on: September 18, 2023, 12:26:42 AM »
That's the way to take penalties anyway. Ollie goes for the corners like Luiz does but for some reason he always seems to get too much on them hence his mediocre record generally on them for us and Brentford.

Given the cup competitions we will likely face a shoot out at some point so hopefully he's practising them in training regularly.

Offline edgysatsuma89

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3536 on: September 18, 2023, 01:05:56 AM »
I mean yes, I can’t work out why Konsa hasn’t figured in a squad.

I think it's somehow connected to the fact that Southgate is a gigantic bellend.

I loathe him. I have very little interest in England anyway, but I can’t wait for the day he fucks off and falls flat on his face back in club football.

I could see a Crystal Palace giving him a go before it quickly goes wrong after a bright start. Then another premier league club probably won’t give him a go depending on how badly it goes. The profile of club that would be interested would be no higher than that.

Very good shout that, LeonW. Can absolutely see Palace going for Southgate after Roy leaves this season and it will be about as big a job in league football that he could he get. None of the top 8 would touch him and he should count his lucky stars should he get the Palace job.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3537 on: September 18, 2023, 08:56:49 AM »
If you are talking current top 8 I agree, but if you are talking in the same way as "top 6" normally, I can see Manure and Chelsea recruiting him as neither seem to have any ideas on building forward.

Could even see Spam as well if they give Moyes the heave-ho. But I suspect he will go to some Saudi team if they haven't given up wasting their money on football in their country.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3538 on: September 18, 2023, 09:01:25 AM »
My lad bought himself some Match Attax football cards today. He's over the moon with his Watkins Golden Baller card which is very very rare apparently.

It has Watkins with full marks for Attack, Defence and Control.....

Control wasn't bad for the play that won the game winning penalty.

With that chance in the first half Johnstone, and most of the fans behind the goal, knew where he going to put that shot. Kind of happens when a forward is low in confidence that they signpost where they will shoot just to get it on target. Needed to shape like Luiz for the penalty and put it into the near side of the goal. He was very unfortunate with that chip too hitting the inside of the post and bouncing off back of the keepers head. The goals will come.

This.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #3539 on: September 18, 2023, 12:17:44 PM »
He will go on one of his scoring runs soon - he maybe not a natural finisher but he brings so much to our team.

As much as i love Duran and think he will be a superstar in the future - he is not ready to replace Watkins in the team play as yet

 


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