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Offline Risso

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #2880 on: April 05, 2023, 04:44:35 PM »
Dion Dublin got 20% of his in his first 3 games!

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #2881 on: April 05, 2023, 05:04:48 PM »
Dion Dublin got 20% of his in his first 3 games!

Dublin was shit hot till he broke his neck, his record was 1 in 2 until then.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #2882 on: April 05, 2023, 05:12:37 PM »
What's telling from that list is how few went on to get many more goals after their first 100 appearances. It's really only Gabby and Yorke who added a decent number AFTER their first 100 games.  If Ollie stays fit, Unai still wants him, and we're competing in the top third of the table for the next few years as we all hope, I could see easily Ollie getting to Gabby's total by the end of 24/25 season.  It's only 4 more this season, and 15 in each of the next two.

TBF, not many of them had many more appearances after the 100. Both Carew and Saunders were just over 100 appearances in total for us. Yorke scored most of his goals in the last few seasons before he was sold as well. I was actually surprised how many Gabby scored after his 100, but you forget he had his prolific spell just at the start of his 100 appearances.

If Ollie does get double figures next season as well, he would be the first Villa player to score doubles in the four seasons in the PL and we would probably be going back quite a few years for that feat in our history I suspect.


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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #2883 on: April 05, 2023, 07:58:41 PM »
Benteke scored many more in many fewer, so, no.

He isn't as good as Benteke but he is better than most on that list. Not Yorke obviously.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #2884 on: April 06, 2023, 08:28:45 AM »
Joachim is a funny one on that list, I never think about him being as good as the other players or scoring that many goals.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #2885 on: April 06, 2023, 08:38:15 AM »
Joachim was always a 7-8 a season guy apart from 98-99 when he got 14. He also won us more penalties than anyone else I can think of, defences couldn’t handle his pace. I still get grief from others about Grealish “diving “ but the only penalty I ever remember him winning was against Palace which I think we missed. Feels a life time ago.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #2886 on: April 06, 2023, 08:39:28 AM »
Dion Dublin got 20% of his in his first 3 games!
Those 3 games managed to convince my young teenage brain that this was what Pele must have been like back in the day.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #2887 on: April 07, 2023, 11:47:32 PM »
New contract in the offing apparently.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #2888 on: April 08, 2023, 02:32:16 AM »
Predictable but not a bad thing.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #2889 on: April 08, 2023, 09:06:28 AM »
A new Benteke or Carew next to Watkins, in this team with Emery as manager would be a thing of majestic beauty. We'd probably have the title wrapped up by Christmas and we'd have to take the phone off the hook to stop Grealish's increasingly desperate calls to come home.
Wesley's due back at the end of this season ...

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #2890 on: April 08, 2023, 09:16:21 AM »
A new Benteke or Carew next to Watkins, in this team with Emery as manager would be a thing of majestic beauty. We'd probably have the title wrapped up by Christmas and we'd have to take the phone off the hook to stop Grealish's increasingly desperate calls to come home.
Wesley's due back at the end of this season ...
Emery might be a magician, but he's not fucking Gandalf

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #2891 on: April 08, 2023, 09:20:51 AM »
Joachim is a funny one on that list, I never think about him being as good as the other players or scoring that many goals.

He always felt like 3rd/4th choice forward, but in the days when we always had two up front, European campaigns, and reasonable cup runs, he always got to play a good few games each season.  He was always behind the likes of Dwight, Savo, Collymore, Dion, JPA in any given season he was here, and eventually his "role" was taken over by Vassell I think?

But considering he was here for four years, and never became a proper first-choice, I think he did really well for us.  I also have a soft spot for him because he scored two the day I took my younger brother to his first game in the Holte End. We won 4-1 against Derby, early in the 2000/01 season.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #2892 on: April 08, 2023, 09:24:50 AM »
Joachim is a funny one on that list, I never think about him being as good as the other players or scoring that many goals.

He always felt like 3rd/4th choice forward, but in the days when we always had two up front, European campaigns, and reasonable cup runs, he always got to play a good few games each season.  He was always behind the likes of Dwight, Savo, Collymore, Dion, JPA in any given season he was here, and eventually his "role" was taken over by Vassell I think?

But considering he was here for four years, and never became a proper first-choice, I think he did really well for us.  I also have a soft spot for him because he scored two the day I took my younger brother to his first game in the Holte End. We won 4-1 against Derby, early in the 2000/01 season.
Julian Joachim was, bizarrely, still playing non-league football up to the start of the pandemic. 28 year long career ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Joachim

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #2893 on: April 08, 2023, 09:33:44 AM »
The ref cancelled the yellow after making the little box sign thing, he had the card in his hand. I think they can cancel a booking if the foul that triggered it is cancelled. It was brilliant determination from Ollie to protect the lead.

It was. The celebratory embrace between Mings and Ollie for the game-winning block was great to see as well.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #2894 on: April 08, 2023, 10:52:32 AM »
Joachim was the main man at various points, even if every other striker on our books had a higher profile. When we were top/second up to Jan'99, he was our top scorer that season.

There was always a bit of inferiority complex towards him/from him - even the way we refer to him now, fans tend to  forget him and how many goals he scored. Gregory even seemed to take the piss when Joachim handed in a transfer request shortly after the FA Cup final defeat in 2000. Ugo and Southgste also handed in requests that fortnight but it was Koachim who Gregory took to task publicly about having the cheek to ask for a higher salary. I guess for the two main defenders, it was more about wanting to play for a bigger team.

Joachim also had an ill-fated attempt around that time to play for St Vincent And Grenadines where he only found out he was ineligible having represented England at U21 level, after he had flown to the Caribbean.

He struck me as a confidence player who maybe was bullied a bit by Gregory. His pace and finishing at times was fantastic though and he clearly had plenty of talent as a kid. There's an amazing goal he scored for Leicester against Barnsley I think, in his teens before we bought him.

Vassell was in a smililar mould - tricky, speedy and occasionally looking world-beating but seeming to lack the confidence to take his game to the next level.

 


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