Ezri Konsa

[VillaTim]

Out of interest, how many goals did we concede the season before with Mings and Konsa playing together? Or just the 5/6 months that Emery was there too.

The season we finished 7th we had the 5th best defence in the league.

[Percy McCarthy]

Out of interest, how many goals did we concede the season before with Mings and Konsa playing together? Or just the 5/6 months that Emery was there too.

With Mings at LCB, him and Konsa are our most effective defence. With Pau at LCB, it’s Konsa/Carlos/Pau

Pau & Konsa are not a very good pair at all. Thankfully Unai has noticed this even if some of the posters on here have somehow missed it, despite having plenty of opportunities to watch us play.

[Bad English]

I've used the word bullying before, and it was rounded on because people don't like to hear it. To be frank, I don't give a fuck, because that's exactly what it is. Those engaging in it should look in the mirror.

You can see who has posted. If you know you won't like it, just scroll  on and get on with your day. Don't berate the neuro-divergent en masse. It's pathetic.

I agree about just scrolling by and not engaging. However, I also don't like diagnosing someone with neuro-divergence online when we have absolutely no idea. This isn't the place to guess.

Agreed. H&V seems to have a few doctors or NHS specialists who should really know better.

[Footy-Vill]

I've used the word bullying before, and it was rounded on because people don't like to hear it. To be frank, I don't give a fuck, because that's exactly what it is. Those engaging in it should look in the mirror.

You can see who has posted. If you know you won't like it, just scroll  on and get on with your day. Don't berate the neuro-divergent en masse. It's pathetic.

I agree about just scrolling by and not engaging. However, I also don't like diagnosing someone with neuro-divergence online when we have absolutely no idea. This isn't the place to guess.

Thank You. And in response I appreciate your words and being positive and respectful. Firstly Mellin and Edgy that you two have a super time following Villa this season! And hope you have a good user experience on H and V.

So in response.
I have to say Is it not OK for people to denigrate my being and that I , a sole individual ,  am some robot or am some gang of trolls? In my capacity as a fully donated member, I merely wish to express my opinions and have football discussion . I am going to exercise my unalienable right to my privacy. Why should I reveal any more information just so I may or may not be treated with some respect?

The rules here state people ought to be courteous -period. I sorry we all just want to discuss football here but as I say I feel as though it's like I must provide answers that I find uncomfortable revealing for fear of receiving further unjust treatment despite revealing what people want as confirmation towards my additional needs. If felt it deemed necessary I would and I would disclose it only to moderators if asked as they are trusted because they are the moderators and moderate!

Anyway I hope we can move past those who keep targeting me  with crude behaviour and instead let us focus on the next, highly anticipated new season!

 Moving on now would be good but wished to address things.
I appreciate what has been suggested by scrolling on or ignoring and hope that can be taken on board even though that personally makes me upset that people dont want to engage it's better than getting upset about comments tht get directed at me .

Yes I have to understand different levels of tolerance and people like not all people but I wish for people to accept different styles or levels of thinking.

Up the Villa.

[Footy-Vill]

Konsa clearly isn't rubbish at right back, he's just a defensive option that makes it easier for us to switch to a back 3 when we have the ball.

is how I see it. However, Carlos doesn't cut it and we need more quality when we pick a 'standard' right back.

Just taking this Konsa chat so can move forward on this thread.

Yes I think in the system played at times Konsa has been more than capable. At international level he was deployed across the back four. For Villa, under Emery, have seen Konsa improve immensely and he's obviously trusted to play a right back role.

[Olneythelonely]

[Dogtanian]

Nice.

I found Matty Cash in the pack.

[Percy McCarthy]

Nice.

I found Matty Cash in the pack.

That graph is just full-backs, but Ezri is terrible there apparently.

The narrative is Trumpian, so far removed from reality, it’a like they don’t watch Villa play.

[Dante Lavelli]

Wow, I’ll concede that i didn’t think he looked that good at RB.  Not bad, by any stretch, but that’d make him probably the best RB in the world. 

I can only think the stats are somehow skewed by him playing CB but I cannot work out how.

[Steve67]

Konsa is the best right back at the club. Arguably the best defender we’ve got. Sadly, it means that we still need to strengthen, other than Maatsen, at the back because he needs a dominant and reliable partner.

[Monty]

Nice.

I found Matty Cash in the pack.

That graph is just full-backs, but Ezri is terrible there apparently.

The narrative is Trumpian, so far removed from reality, it’a like they don’t watch Villa play.

Not just that they preferred him at centre-back, but that he's 'awful', 'terrible', etc etc. I guess some people just want to see it, and couple of bad days (and everyone, everyone has bad days) gave this meme a specious credence.

[paul_e]

What that also shows is why we've signed Maatsen. Both our left backs are pretty disappointing on that and more broadly the only stat for a full back where he loses out to them is in aerial duels and with the height we've been adding to the team I'm less bothered by that now than I would've been.

[Percy McCarthy]

Wow, I’ll concede that i didn’t think he looked that good at RB.  Not bad, by any stretch, but that’d make him probably the best RB in the world. 

For 1v1 defending, he’s up there. And in the modern game, your wide defenders are often up against the opposition’s best players. We’d be mad to sacrifice his elite ability there to put him back in a weak-ish partnership with Pau, especially in the CL.

[pauliewalnuts]

Nice.

I found Matty Cash in the pack.

That graph is just full-backs, but Ezri is terrible there apparently.

The narrative is Trumpian, so far removed from reality, it’a like they don’t watch Villa play.

Not just that they preferred him at centre-back, but that he's 'awful', 'terrible', etc etc. I guess some people just want to see it, and couple of bad days (and everyone, everyone has bad days) gave this meme a specious credence.

Whilst I largely agree with you both, it’s just people disagreeing about a footballers best position.

It’s not like they’re failing to reach their UCCA or PCAS (or whatever they’re called now) grade requirements, or voting Reform or something. It’s not like we need to dunk them to check they’re not witches or something. This all seems a bit “wear this pointy hat and sit in the corner, you hopeless idiots”.

Interesting historic point. If we trained an AI model to plough through 20 years of posts on here and asked it which position on the pitch provoked most “he should / should not be playing there” controversy, without a doubt it would be full back. By a mile.

[Percy McCarthy]

Nice.

I found Matty Cash in the pack.

That graph is just full-backs, but Ezri is terrible there apparently.

The narrative is Trumpian, so far removed from reality, it’a like they don’t watch Villa play.

Not just that they preferred him at centre-back, but that he's 'awful', 'terrible', etc etc. I guess some people just want to see it, and couple of bad days (and everyone, everyone has bad days) gave this meme a specious credence.

Whilst I largely agree with you both, it’s just people disagreeing about a footballers best position.

It’s not like they’re failing to reach their UCCA or PCAS (or whatever they’re called now) grade requirements, or voting Reform or something. It’s not like we need to dunk them to check they’re not witches or something. This all seems a bit “wear this pointy hat and sit in the corner, you hopeless idiots”.

Interesting historic point. If we trained an AI model to plough through 20 years of posts on here and asked it which position on the pitch provoked most “he should / should not be playing there” controversy, without a doubt it would be full back. By a mile.

I sympathise with your general point, but like Monty says it’s all the ‘he’s awful’ stuff, when we’ve all watched him mark Vini Jr out of the game on his England debut, and a judge at the level of Unai Emery plays him there whenever we need to be at our defensive best. But that’s dismissed as a ‘blind spot’. I read it like someone is trying to convince me that black is white.

You’ll remember I think paulie, the zonal marking saga on here. One season we marked like that and were the best team in the league at defending set-pieces, conceding one goal. The next year we went man-for-man and conceded 28, the worst in the league. And I still found people on here arguing that man-marking was better. H&V for you.