VAR

[dcdavecollett]

The 'no dive' two-handed push on Ollie at Wolves is a good example of what Paule was posting about.

[PeterWithesShin]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67421748

[Simon Page]

Reading through all that makes me pine for the days before it. We seem to be determined to make football as complicated and sanitised as those robot butlers we were promised. There is and always has been absolutely zero need for VAR. I know it's not going to be ditched, but Jesus it's tedious, whiny shite whichever way you look at it.

Kick orb for 90 minutes, team with most goals gloats, other lot blame ref. Nothing else is needed.

[dr.chekov]

Agree with every word.

[Monty]

There are more good decisions now than ever before. The days of being pissed off for a truly blatant offside Liverpool winner in the last minute are thankfully over. The trouble is that the Premier League has the worst implementation of any league on earth (I think De Zerbi was saying something similar).

[Simon Page]

There are more good decisions now than ever before. The days of being pissed off for a truly blatant offside Liverpool winner in the last minute are thankfully over.

Are there more good decisions? Or are there more times where officials rely on the second check?
Tell Wolves that thing about blatant.

[paul_e]

There are more good decisions now than ever before. The days of being pissed off for a truly blatant offside Liverpool winner in the last minute are thankfully over.

Are there more good decisions? Or are there more times where officials rely on the second check?
Tell Wolves that thing about blatant.

There are definitely more correct decisions now than there were in the past, but there are still far too many bad decisions.

[VillaTim]

It's when VAR make a really bad call that you have to question corruption

[Baldy]

Simplify the rules of the game and referees/var/microphones might stand a chance.

Currently, offsides and handball in particular are a joke. A lot of pundits avoid discussing those incidents to avoid making themselves look like a fool.

I was not surprised at how fast fans adapted to the difference between a deliberate pass back and an accidental pass back to the goalie. They are obvious. The same should apply with handball. We can all tell whats deliberate and whats accidental. They are obvious.

With offside, there needs to be 'clear daylight' between last defender and the forward. Be a lot more clear than armpits, toes and noses getting involved.

Simplify the rules 'first' and then VAR might stand a chance.

[chrisw1]

It's when VAR make a really bad call that you have to question corruption

There is no corruption, certainly not in the English / Scottish leagues anyway.

There may be (almost certainly is) unconscious 'big team' bias.  But corruption is a phrase that gets trotted out by hysterics on Twitter and I'd like to think we're more balanced on here.

[chrisw1]

With offside, there needs to be 'clear daylight' between last defender and the forward. Be a lot more clear than armpits, toes and noses getting involved.

As in the whole body, including legs and feet must be entirely offside?  Why?  That would fundamentally change the dynamics of how the game is played and in particular be a disaster for our high line.

The semi-automated system works and is instantaneous.  I've no idea why the PL voted against it's use this season.

[VillaTim]

It's when VAR make a really bad call that you have to question corruption

There is no corruption, certainly not in the English / Scottish leagues anyway.

There may be (almost certainly is) unconscious 'big team' bias.  But corruption is a phrase that gets trotted out by hysterics on Twitter and I'd like to think we're more balanced on here.

haha yeah ok, Why are CiŁy still steam rollering along then despite 115 unresolved charges hanging over them

[ChicagoLion]

It's when VAR make a really bad call that you have to question corruption

There is no corruption, certainly not in the English / Scottish leagues anyway.

There may be (almost certainly is) unconscious 'big team' bias.  But corruption is a phrase that gets trotted out by hysterics on Twitter and I'd like to think we're more balanced on here.

haha yeah ok, Why are CiŁy still steam rollering along then despite 115 unresolved charges hanging over them

I think it is naive to think that there is no corruption in the game.
The PGMOL, the fact that it even exists stinks.

[Somniloquism]

Are they doing it because they have paid off every ref going then which seems to be the insinuation you made previously that Chrisw was replying to.

[Somniloquism]

I think it is naive to think that there is no corruption in the game.
The PGMOL, the fact that it even exists stinks.

So referees and officials shouldn't be professional? I suspect there probably might have been more corruption in amateur days when they got pittances for reffing and needed other means of income.

As ChrisW alludes, there might be a favouritism towards the bigger teams from certain refs, but he doesn't think, and there certainly has been no evidence of someone actually paying off refs to ensure certain teams win. I think the last whiff of "hmm, was that match fixed" was when Hans Segers kept on throwing the ball into the net to ensure Everton's survival and was charged along with others of match fixing.