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Re: VAR
« Reply #2730 on: April 05, 2023, 10:17:24 AM »
Still think it's a massive problem for the fans in the ground for them not to know what is going on - why? what are they looking at? etc then the decision finally comes through after the game has kicked off again.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2731 on: April 05, 2023, 10:32:11 AM »
Still think it's a massive problem for the fans in the ground for them not to know what is going on - why? what are they looking at? etc then the decision finally comes through after the game has kicked off again.

That’s it. Last night for instance, no one had a clue what was going on with the penalty incident. How many times is this replicated in a game up and down the country. There’s got to be a better way but like a lot of things the supports who can attend games are an after thought.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2732 on: April 05, 2023, 10:41:56 AM »
Mike up the ref or Stockely park to tell the fans in ground what is being looked at.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2733 on: April 05, 2023, 10:43:19 AM »
Mike up the ref or Stockely park to tell the fans in ground what is being looked at.
One way or another it should be an easy fix.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2734 on: April 05, 2023, 10:44:41 AM »
Wouldn't take much would it.

"VAR check on the defending player's challenge on the attacker - possible non-penalty."

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2735 on: April 05, 2023, 10:45:20 AM »
As an aside, just go back to the weekend and the West Ham goal.  There were four, I think, West Ham players in offside positions over a width of about eight to ten yards when that goal was scored, just one of those players in the position he was in was enough to wipe out that goal never mind four!  Until that sort of shit gets sorted then I genuinely feel VAR is not fit for purpose.  We benefited both at the weekend and last night but when we look back we certainly deserved a change in fortunes as far as VAR is concerned.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2736 on: April 05, 2023, 10:47:45 AM »
The conversation of OT in last years FA Cup would have been fascinating:

"Is it offside?"

No

"Handball"

No

"Did the goalscorer commit a foul"

No

"Can you find something else to rule it out?"

Hang on.......

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2737 on: April 05, 2023, 10:49:23 AM »
Mike up the ref or Stockely park to tell the fans in ground what is being looked at.

"Sorry, John, they're looking at a possible push on Watkins. Hopefully they won't be long"
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"Going anywhere nice this summer?"

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2738 on: April 05, 2023, 12:13:35 PM »
The conversation of OT in last years FA Cup would have been fascinating:

"Is it offside?"

No

"Handball"

No

"Did the goalscorer commit a foul"

No

"Can you find something else to rule it out?"

Hang on.......

Ha, very true.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2739 on: April 06, 2023, 12:10:22 AM »
Surely one of the first things you learn as a ref is that if you don’t see something, you can’t give it. What on earth did the useless arse last night think he’d seen to justify giving a penalty. He clearly just guessed, probably in the hope that VAR would bail him out.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2740 on: April 06, 2023, 06:21:57 AM »
Exactly right.

VAR should be there if the ref misses something or is unsighted. It’s not to wipe out stuff he’s just making up. I can’t see what he would think he saw in that late incident.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2741 on: April 06, 2023, 06:32:32 AM »
Surely one of the first things you learn as a ref is that if you don’t see something, you can’t give it. What on earth did the useless arse last night think he’d seen to justify giving a penalty. He clearly just guessed, probably in the hope that VAR would bail him out.

He probably went with the notion that the Leicester forward had been bundled off the ball. And by another forward, the old nugget “it’s a forwards challenge”. Except that it was Daka who initiated contact on Ollie. Giving him the benefit of the doubt he might not have seen who pushed who first.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2742 on: April 06, 2023, 10:12:02 AM »
Surely one of the first things you learn as a ref is that if you don’t see something, you can’t give it. What on earth did the useless arse last night think he’d seen to justify giving a penalty. He clearly just guessed, probably in the hope that VAR would bail him out.

Yes, more should be made of that absolute clownshow. You do not give a penalty with seconds to go on the basis that 'something' may have happened you fucking idiot. The ball was out of play, he could've just stopped his watch and had a word in his mic to ask them to look again and check what happened, the twat.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2743 on: April 06, 2023, 10:36:34 AM »
Another thing I hate about VAR (you might have gathered that I'm not a fan), is that it only applies here and there.

Leicester had a corner given, which with the benefit of a replay could clearly be seen to be the incorrect decision, perhaps, I would venture, clear and obvious even. From said corner that big galumph almost scored. Now I know people will point to the fact that the corner itself is a different phase, which is correct but it's a phase of play that shouldn't have taken place because of an incorrect decision that quite simply could've been reversed.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2744 on: April 06, 2023, 10:37:43 AM »
Another thing I hate about VAR (you might have gathered that I'm not a fan), is that it only applies here and there.

Leicester had a corner given, which with the benefit of a replay could clearly be seen to be the incorrect decision, perhaps, I would venture, clear and obvious even. From said corner that big galumph almost scored. Now I know people will point to the fact that the corner itself is a different phase, which is correct but it's a phase of play that shouldn't have taken place because of an incorrect decision that quite simply could've been reversed.

That's how Man City scored their first in the League cup Final in 2020. They weren't using VAR that day but I was getting texts through in the stadium even before the corner had been taken that it was wrong.

 


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