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Offline Risso

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5670 on: April 21, 2024, 11:04:01 AM »
Heck's kids are all grown up.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5671 on: April 21, 2024, 11:04:47 AM »
Remember when the old Wembley Stadium was about to be scrapped and every right minded football fan in the country said that the national stadium should be in the midlands? Well this is our opportunity to remind the rest of the footballing world what they are missing out on. Wether we rebuild Villa Park on it's current site or relocate, it should be the biggest and best stadium in the country. Forget 50k capacity, go all out for 100k. Don't worry about filling it - give free tickets or heavily discounted tickets out of necessary. Show the rest of the world that we mean business. Build it and they will come.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5672 on: April 21, 2024, 11:08:59 AM »
Haha love your enthusiasm Rico but that’s much like posts on SHA forum.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5673 on: April 21, 2024, 11:12:27 AM »
Never want us to be associated with anything SHA do or say, but I genuinely believe that this is a once in a life time opportunity to not only increase the profile of AVFC, it would actually raise the profile of the city of Birmingham.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5674 on: April 21, 2024, 11:57:09 AM »
Remember when the old Wembley Stadium was about to be scrapped and every right minded football fan in the country said that the national stadium should be in the midlands? Well this is our opportunity to remind the rest of the footballing world what they are missing out on. Wether we rebuild Villa Park on it's current site or relocate, it should be the biggest and best stadium in the country. Forget 50k capacity, go all out for 100k. Don't worry about filling it - give free tickets or heavily discounted tickets out of necessary. Show the rest of the world that we mean business. Build it and they will come.

Even if it is built around the NEC area which is where we stated the national stadium should have been built?

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5675 on: April 21, 2024, 01:22:10 PM »
Like many others, I'm torn on this. Head and heart.  Villa Park will always be where I saw my first game, but every stand and terrace that was there that day has long since fallen to the demolition wrecking-ball.  Some of my best memories are entwined with what's happened on the Villa Park pitch and those I shared those moments with.

And yet, Aston Villa needs to be consistently at the forefront of the English game and, like it or not, that means securing hundreds of millions more in turnover than we currently do.  We've had a succession of owners who've all been complicit in allowing this financial gap to arise, but thankfully we now have owners who want us to be at the top table and not just pay lip service to it in the context of history and tradition. 

Realistically, that requires a 60,000+ capacity stadium and all the revenue streams that go with it. That won't happen on the current site.

As far as the design, etc.  Let's go for something iconic, unique to us, fit for succeeding generations but with a nod to the past. Something that will give the contributors to whatever passes for a fans' online forum in fifty or one hundred years time the same pride and emotional pull as Villa Park does for us now.

Offline nigel

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5676 on: April 21, 2024, 02:35:43 PM »
Pretty much where I am TD.
Design wise:
I’ve been to the Emirates a couple of times, and have to admit I really like it.
Someone mentioned Lille, and photos of that it looks really spectacular.
Also, Dortmund looks pretty spectacular, too

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5677 on: April 21, 2024, 02:54:37 PM »
Because of PSR, all the money the various owners have can’t buy guaranteed success. It can, however, buy us the best stadium in the world, if they so wish.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5678 on: April 21, 2024, 03:10:42 PM »
It’s extremely difficult to manage the transition from USA to UK education and vice versa.

That's understandable, especially when it comes to maths and geography.
https://twitter.com/LarryDa57487286/status/1754346362186182789


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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5679 on: April 23, 2024, 09:59:24 AM »
It’s extremely difficult to manage the transition from USA to UK education and vice versa.

That's understandable, especially when it comes to maths and geography.
https://twitter.com/LarryDa57487286/status/1754346362186182789


Not surprising, they don’t do Geography in schools and no one is interested in anything outside the US.
All History is American history which there isn’t much but they get totally fixed on it.


Offline Chris Harte

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5680 on: April 23, 2024, 10:20:46 AM »
I've been thinking about this situation, and as much as I don't want us to move from Villa Park, I just hope that if/when we do it's not for the addition of a poxy ten thousand seats. Actually, even twenty thousand wouldn't be enough to move in my view.

If we're going to move, it must be for 70,000+ seats, with provision to expand even beyond that.

If people say we won't fill it, it's missing the point. The game really is all about the money now. 15,000 empty seats won't matter if the total receipts are (plucking a figure out of the air) ten million quid per game thanks to the corporate.

As for getting the extra people in and out? Dunno. Don't care. A problem for the club/authorities to sort out.

It occurred to me that every other club in the area hates the Villa. Wolves have invented a rivalry with us, so did Coventry a quarter of a century ago. I've even met Walsall fans who hate Villa. Fucking Walsall, ffs. Well I say let's shoot for the stars and give them even more to be green with envy about.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2024, 10:23:37 AM by Chris Harte »

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5681 on: April 23, 2024, 10:55:30 AM »
If the extra 10k seats don't matter why build them?  Everton went the other way with 53k.  It seems very low to me, but you can guarantee they will have built in outstanding corporate facilities which is where the big bucks come in, so maybe they came to the conclusion that the diminishing returns of the extra 15k or so seats aren't worth it.  Add in the benefit of the more intimate 53k stadium with steep stands and scarcity keeping demand and prices high, maybe they have a point? 

I'm unsure, but I wonder if the fan experience and atmosphere in their 53k would be better than a non-sold-out 65-70ker?

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5682 on: April 23, 2024, 11:57:52 AM »
It’s extremely difficult to manage the transition from USA to UK education and vice versa.

That's understandable, especially when it comes to maths and geography.
https://twitter.com/LarryDa57487286/status/1754346362186182789


Not surprising, they don’t do Geography in schools and no one is interested in anything outside the US.
All History is American history which there isn’t much but they get totally fixed on it.



There's a lady on that video who couldn't even identify the United States. I get that their very insular but to not even be able to recognise your own country is bad.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5683 on: April 23, 2024, 11:59:29 AM »
It’s extremely difficult to manage the transition from USA to UK education and vice versa.

That's understandable, especially when it comes to maths and geography.
https://twitter.com/LarryDa57487286/status/1754346362186182789


Not surprising, they don’t do Geography in schools and no one is interested in anything outside the US.
All History is American history which there isn’t much but they get totally fixed on it.



There's a lady on that video who couldn't even identify the United States. I get that their very insular but to not even be able to recognise your own country is bad.

I’d suggest it would be very similar if you did that in the UK.

Offline Concrete Tom

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5684 on: April 23, 2024, 12:03:15 PM »
It’s extremely difficult to manage the transition from USA to UK education and vice versa.

That's understandable, especially when it comes to maths and geography.
https://twitter.com/LarryDa57487286/status/1754346362186182789


Not surprising, they don’t do Geography in schools and no one is interested in anything outside the US.
All History is American history which there isn’t much but they get totally fixed on it.



There's a lady on that video who couldn't even identify the United States. I get that their very insular but to not even be able to recognise your own country is bad.

I’d suggest it would be very similar if you did that in the UK.

I'd suggest that the footage from the street has been heavily edited to make the point they wanted to. Someone getting it right wouldn't be as much fun to see.

 


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