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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: SoccerHQ on January 18, 2025, 07:29:00 PM
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What a second half lads. Well done.
Onto the delights of Monte Carlo.
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I wish people would stop hammering Ollie. He is so consistent, I love him.
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A superb comeback. It’s really hard to do that in the PL but this side is showing a lot of fight to work through what’s not been an easy season. We don’t give up and that’s credit to everyone.
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Get. In. Yes!
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Whilst 6points would have been tremendous, 4 is a brilliant return based on the circumstances. Shame it was Bournemouth who beat Newcastle, but for all them going on a 10 match winning streak, we are 2 points behind the horse punchers.
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I wish people would stop hammering Ollie. He is so consistent, I love him.
Agreed. It’s getting annoying. He’s been an outstanding player for us for many years now.
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Great comeback. Did not see that coming. Bogarde did really well when he came on. Great finish from Watkins and two fantastic deliveries for our goals.
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Good point from a difficult position. Cherry on top is that I love fucking Arsenal over so, so much.
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Fuck it I'll take that.
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What a match! Really proud of the squad today.
Matchthread was embarrassing.
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from 2 down, that's impressive. Massive for momentum. Loving it.
and Arteta is a twat.
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Good point from a difficult position. Cherry on top is that I love fucking Arsenal over so, so much.
Even better to fuck them over with some controversy. Remember Havertz had the exact same call against him at VP last season.
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Enjoyed that. Fuck off Arsenal.
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Fuck off Arsenal.
Edit: Meanwood just beat me!
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Love that the Sky commentator had this shoved down his throat. And Neville not much better.
Laughing that they played Tears for Fears after the end!
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A point that feels more like 3.
Great 2nd half.
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Kai Havertz is fucking cheat. If he’s not holding his face or diving or handling the ball it’s always something.
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I really didn’t think we were that far off in the first half but brilliant comeback in the second. Youri was brilliant, great finish from Ollie and special nod for Bogarde; last time he played midfield was for Bristol Rovers.
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Shout out for Bogarde as well, solid when he came on.
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I turned it off to go and have dinner when their second went in, so I'm taking credit for that comeback.
Unfortunately, I'm going to Monaco so won't be able to repeat the trick on Tuesday.
Anyway, well done the lads. Almost feels like a win, that.
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Superb comeback. Defensively we still struggle but you cannot say this team don’t have the balls to fight. Proud of them tonight.
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A mature performance i thought. No panic when two down,kept our shape well,and had them scared even at 2-2. Too many motms but I'm bigging up Bogarde. Superb stint.
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Shout out for Bogarde as well, solid when he came on.
Agree 100% - did a good job. Nothing flashy, just solid.
I would have taken a point before the game.
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So proud of them today. That was a massive point and better comeback. 2 points behind 4th now
Mings excellent, kamara great and again motm.
Bogarde to be fair grew in the game. Well done lamare.
Anyone want to join me for a whisky?
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Take that result , and didn't see it coming to be honest 2 nil down. Well done lads . Special mention for that twat referee, who gave Arsenal every marginal free kick and Villa nothing . Oh yes and Arteta enjoy not winning another trophy son.
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Shout out for Bogarde as well, solid when he came on.
More than solid, his pass to pick out Digne who assisted the first was very good indeed. Didn’t look overawed, and he clearly has Unai’s trust.
Unlucky his shot in the second half didn’t squeak under Raya, it was close.
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Bogarde was good - kept it simple, knew his job. Impressed.
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The absolute sweetest moment in that game, even more than the villa goals, was that miss by goggle eyes in the last minute. I’m afraid to say I said a very bad swear word in front of my children when that went wide.
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I missed the first half! What injury did Onana go off with? He does seem to get injured a lot. Second half we showed great character.
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Thought it was all over at two nil, we were not anywhere near our best but battled gallantly.
Right call to take Matson off we looked far stronger. Bogarde did well and is one to watch.
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I missed the first half! What injury did Onana go off with? He does seem to get injured a lot. Second half we showed great character.
Seemed to be calf.
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Don't think we played that well at all but a great result in the circumstances. Two great deliveries for our goals. A lot to work on with the team though. Delighted for Ollie, scoring with Duran stripped on the sideline! Ramsey and Maatsen very disappointing and I was one calling for them on the left flank! Bailey ball watching for that chance at the end was dreadful.
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I missed the first half! What injury did Onana go off with? He does seem to get injured a lot. Second half we showed great character.
I think he’s made of spiderwebs.
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I missed the first half! What injury did Onana go off with? He does seem to get injured a lot. Second half we showed great character.
Whatever it was Unai didn’t seem too worried after he spoke to him as he was coming off.
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Superb second half after going 2 down. Quite funny we had more on the bench than them and that's with McGinn, Barkley, Torres all out at the moment. Onwards to Monaco.
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Lived dangerously at the end, bit fortunate if truth be told
Great come back, well done Ollie and Yuri
Defence, Konsa and Mings looked OK
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A draw there is tolerable on a day we where not at our best. Might be that plan was not to go full force as Monaco upcoming. Arse are dislikeable.
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I'll take 2-2 at their place all day, even better after being 2-0 down. 2 in 2 for Ollie, and we're unbeaten in 2025 so far. Let's keep going.
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What a fucking team.
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Love that the Sky commentator had this shoved down his throat. And Neville not much better.
Laughing that they played Tears for Fears after the end!
great album that .
dug in and did great today .
Luca was great and Kamara and Tielmans got better as the game went on.
Young Bogey did ok .
two great finishes and two amazing crosses2 .
2 points from top 4 in Jan is nothing to be sniffed at .
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The lad and I celebrating this like the Bayern win! Very good result from 2-down. Just about to message my Spudz mate
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At 1-0 I said if they get another one , it will end up 4.
So pleases have got it utterly wrong.
Great comeback
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Kai Havertz is fucking cheat. If he’s not holding his face or diving or handling the ball it’s always something.
Pathetic shitbag of a player. The gall of him to celebrate that.
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Great result. Very happy with that point.
Now let’s beat monaco who are shit at the moment. That will keep french reporters’ mouths shut. They are all arsenal supporters.
Have a good WE everyone.
UTV
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The lad and I celebrating this like the Bayern win!
Steady on.
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Was only able to watch from just after we equalised. The commentator kept saying the ball 'brushed Havertz's arm' and 'his arm got in the way.' Jeez, it was such a deflection he might as well have thrown the ball into the net.
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The lad and I celebrating this like the Bayern win!
Steady on.
Not THAT one!!! :-)
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Superb comeback Villa, at 2 down thought we had no chance of getting anything, Liverpool are loving us!
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The last few weeks it feels like we’re getting our mojo back from last season.
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Ollie what you talking about man???
Thats blatent handball 🤦♂️
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What a match! Really proud of the squad today.
Matchthread was embarrassing.
We really weren't that bad first half, was a massive overreaction from the usual suspects.
Also Emirates seems to be one of those big away grounds where we don't have endless trauma. Won there in the early years and spectacularly last season. At 2-0 down we'd have never done this sort of comeback at Old Trafford or St James Park so that's where the players kept believing from winning last year.
In the end a deserved point and should be huge as we'll have more confidence in the remaining away games to dig out some hard fought wins.
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Ollie what you talking about man???
Thats blatent handball 🤦♂️
You beat me to it. Wtf is he on about?
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Ollie what you talking about man???
Thats blatent handball 🤦♂️
You beat me to it. Wtf is he on about?
Suspect he doesn’t know the interpretation of the law!
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Ollie what you talking about man???
Thats blatent handball 🤦♂️
I don't know , the replay looks like it hit his midriff , it will be even more sweet if Arsenal/Arteta bleet about it !
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It was clearly handball. Steven Tayloresque from the Arsenal cheat.
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Ollie what you talking about man???
Thats blatent handball 🤦♂️
You beat me to it. Wtf is he on about?
Suspect he doesn’t know the interpretation of the law!
Not seen what he has stated, but he knows any touch by hand / arm is handball for the scorer has he has had a couple ruled out for it.
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That sad crybaby fan at the end. Sums them up
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Proud of this side. Some Villa sides would have been a soft touch and its all over but we were excellent tonight. Delighted and the good run continues.
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That sad crybaby fan at the end. Sums them up
Disappointed that the cameras chose to focus on him when that's so obviously what he was after, the attention-seeking twat.
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https://www.skysports.com/premier-league-highlights/video/36504/13291922/arsenal-2-2-aston-villa-premier-league-highlights
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Lee Hendrie is a very good analyst
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Sky sports actually talking about us alert.
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That sad crybaby fan at the end. Sums them up
they're a bunch of wet-wipes
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Great comeback!!!
Saw the replays a few times but I don’t honestly think it hit donkey’s arm.
Makes it even sweeter!
Onward to Monaco.
Which of you reprobates are going?
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That sad crybaby fan at the end. Sums them up
Disappointed that the cameras chose to focus on him when that's so obviously what he was after, the attention-seeking twat.
My brother told me about this but I wasn't watching. Does anyone have a clip? Sounds great.
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Two great crosses for the goals. It's not been a feature off our play this season. More hope than expectation. Hopefully we can create more goals from crosses into the box.
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That sad crybaby fan at the end. Sums them up
Disappointed that the cameras chose to focus on him when that's so obviously what he was after, the attention-seeking twat.
My brother told me about this but I wasn't watching. Does anyone have a clip? Sounds great.
Sure it will be all over social media soon.
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That sad crybaby fan at the end. Sums them up
Disappointed that the cameras chose to focus on him when that's so obviously what he was after, the attention-seeking twat.
My brother told me about this but I wasn't watching. Does anyone have a clip? Sounds great.
You had to be there, man. One of those moments that people will talk about for years to come.
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Although Arsenal were 1-0 up and in a degree of control, it's a score line you always feel you have a chance and we did well to limit too many clearcut opportunities. The second goal I thought was gonna kill us but to be fair, Arsenal took their foot off the pedal and we shifted up a few gears and rattled them. We were superb from that point on and could have scored more.
We held out well at the end and in no small part because Tyrone and Konsa is our best combo defensively, by a distance. Digne made us a bit more solid on the left. Maatsen is a good player, but I don't know if this was his type of game.
Ollie was excellent. Worked very hard. Kamara is quality. Youri was superb in the second half.
I also thought given the circumstances, Bogarde did extremely well.
The best part of all, despite the ref favouring Arsenal throughout the game, Arteta will add that disallowed goal to his big book of slights against Arsenal. He'll be bleating on about that one on his deathbed. In reality, absolutely no debates on that one. It was a clear handball.
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Brilliant comeback, made all the sweeter by their late "winner" being disallowed. Wasn't on the cards at 2-0.
Arsenal have failed to win a Premier League home game in which they led by two or more goals for the first time since October 2019 (2-2 versus Crystal Palace), having won each of their last 46 before tonight.
Meanwhile, Aston Villa avoided defeat in a Premier League away game in which they trailed by two or more goals for the first time since November 2013 (2-2 vs West Bromwich Albion), ending a run of 52 straight defeats in that situation
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Ollie what you talking about man???
Thats blatent handball 🤦♂️
You beat me to it. Wtf is he on about?
Suspect he doesn’t know the interpretation of the law!
Not seen what he has stated, but he knows any touch by hand / arm is handball for the scorer has he has had a couple ruled out for it.
He said after being shown a replay "I'm not sure about that I think it's gone in our favour. I'd be disappointed if they took one off me for that" A crazy interpretation or maybe he's just sticking to the strikers union rules.
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Toshard is either Lee Henrie’s or Gareth from The Office son.
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Great shift from the lads. Deserved point.
That handball was so blatant, Havertz should have been booked.
Massive credit to Cash, that cross for the equaliser was brilliant. If it had been Trent Alexander-Arnold it would be headline news on all the Sunday papers!!
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The media story is that Arsenal were 'unlucky' - the reality is that we defended brilliantly and denied them further goals. We had our own chances in the game but - inevitably - Arse had the majority of the game.
I felt for Maatsen but taking him off made sense.
I thought Bogarde replaced Onana very adequately: I was impressed with his passing (he played the ball out to Digne for our first goal) and he kept a cool head. Someone on here said that his best position is as a DMF: could well be right.
Mings and Cash were excellent, despite Gary Neville saying Cash was being roasted by Trossard. Mings just offers us a brick wall in defence. Kudos.
Rogers and Ramsey were in and out, doing some good things but not being quite imposing enough. That coolness by Rogers in the first half when defending in our box was a thing of beauty.
Watkins is a massive asset for us; never to be underestimated. The finish from Cash's wonderful cross was brilliant.
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Two great crosses for the goals. It's not been a feature off our play this season. More hope than expectation. Hopefully we can create more goals from crosses into the box.
If Merson was slagging off Merino's defending for the first then can only imagine what they will say about Partey for Watkins defending. Just goes AWOL.
There was a lot of really poor defending today, as seen in the 4 goals.
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Haha. Arteta. They deserved so much more. Apparently. Whatever.
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Mings was immense once again. Tuchel looking on, hopefully he gets his England place back.
Bouba once again motm.
Great point and thoroughly deserved. Well done lads.
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Great shift from the lads. Deserved point.
That handball was so blatant, Havertz should have been booked.
Massive credit to Cash, that cross for the equaliser was brilliant. If it had been Trent Alexander-Arnold it would be headline news on all the Sunday papers!!
I loved how Lee Hendrie and Paul Merson took the piss out of Havertz. Pointing our the fact that this is live tv and cameras are literally everywhere. You might get away with it in the championship they said.
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An obvious handball, a well deserved win and Ollie Watkins analysis of himself, when he is better when he just acts on instinct, is 100% correct - keep doing it. We showed a lot of fight tonight, thats all fans ask for
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Haha. Arteta. They deserved so much more. Apparently. Whatever.
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I look forward to his sacking the monumental prick
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Arteta just cannot praise the opposition or accept the ref was correct can he?
Just watched Arsenal Fan TV. Hilarious stuff - they really celebrate that "3rd" lol
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An obvious handball, a well deserved win and Ollie Watkins analysis of himself, when he is better when he just acts on instinct, is 100% correct - keep doing it. We showed a lot of fight tonight, thats all fans ask for
Did we win? I must've nodded off. Get in Villa
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AFTV. To be enjoyed.
https://x.com/aftvmedia/status/1880702204715082084?s=46
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Although Arsenal were 1-0 up and in a degree of control, it's a score line you always feel you have a chance and we did well to limit too many clearcut opportunities. The second goal I thought was gonna kill us but to be fair, Arsenal took their foot off the pedal and we shifted up a few gears and rattled them. We were superb from that point on and could have scored more.
We held out well at the end and in no small part because Tyrone and Konsa is our best combo defensively, by a distance. Digne made us a bit more solid on the left. Maatsen is a good player, but I don't know if this was his type of game.
Ollie was excellent. Worked very hard. Kamara is quality. Youri was superb in the second half.
I also thought given the circumstances, Bogarde did extremely well.
The best part of all, despite the ref favouring Arsenal throughout the game, Arteta will add that disallowed goal to his big book of slights against Arsenal. He'll be bleating on about that one on his deathbed. In reality, absolutely no debates on that one. It was a clear handball.
He gave us something Digne doesn’t going forward but was suspect defensively and at fault for Arse’s first goal. I think he was subbed because we’d lost Onana and needed more stability at the back.
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Just went on Arsenal Mania for the lolz. Should've known better. There's a lot of them arguing it didn't hit Havertz's arm. Such a deranged fanbase.
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Merson. Just talked about Afferlehico Madrid
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Ollie what you talking about man???
Thats blatent handball 🤦♂️
You beat me to it. Wtf is he on about?
Suspect he doesn’t know the interpretation of the law!
Not seen what he has stated, but he knows any touch by hand / arm is handball for the scorer has he has had a couple ruled out for it.
He said after being shown a replay "I'm not sure about that I think it's gone in our favour. I'd be disappointed if they took one off me for that" A crazy interpretation or maybe he's just sticking to the strikers union rules.
Yeah dont understand what ollies on about there. Thats as blatent as hand balls come
On a side note the ref was absolutely dreadful. Its a miracle we ended with 11 men as he was so pro arsenal just like the commentary team
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Undefeated in the new year. Squad strengthening for the run in. Onwards and upwards!!
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Absolute state of the commentares - repeatadly saying it brushed his his arm - it was going out for a fucking throw in until his arm deflected it.
Don’t worry - when I’m king - first thing I’ll do is stamp down on this shit
Well done Villa - good resolve with a make shift
Midfield - thought Bogarde did well
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Ollie what you talking about man???
Thats blatent handball 🤦♂️
You beat me to it. Wtf is he on about?
Suspect he doesn’t know the interpretation of the law!
Not seen what he has stated, but he knows any touch by hand / arm is handball for the scorer has he has had a couple ruled out for it.
Clearly not!
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AFTV. To be enjoyed.
https://x.com/aftvmedia/status/1880702204715082084?s=46
Jesus Suffering Fuck
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AFTV. To be enjoyed.
https://x.com/aftvmedia/status/1880702204715082084?s=46
It's not the same without the lady in the boots. :(
Nice to such a roomful of tw*ts being disappointed though.
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Result! Only just seen.
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Have that you entitled wankers. Fantastic comeback again from Villa. We aren't anywhere near as fluid this season but there's an admirable resilience to us at times.
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That handball was so blatant, Havertz should have been booked.
Booked for the hand ball, sent off for the celebration.
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Reasonabale point in the end.
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That handball was so blatant, Havertz should have been booked.
Booked for the hand ball, sent off for the celebration.
He should already have been on a booking for being an Arsenal twat.
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It’s amazing how far we’ve come in a relatively short time. A Gerrard team would have just capitulated. Unai is a very clever man a great manager and a joy to have.
Not the prettiest performance but super goals and the job got done. A draw there is good especially from 2 nil down.
Well done
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Ollie what you talking about man???
Thats blatent handball 🤦♂️
You beat me to it. Wtf is he on about?
Suspect he doesn’t know the interpretation of the law!
Not seen what he has stated, but he knows any touch by hand / arm is handball for the scorer has he has had a couple ruled out for it.
He said after being shown a replay "I'm not sure about that I think it's gone in our favour. I'd be disappointed if they took one off me for that" A crazy interpretation or maybe he's just sticking to the strikers union rules.
Yeah dont understand what ollies on about there. Thats as blatent as hand balls come
On a side note the ref was absolutely dreadful. Its a miracle we ended with 11 men as he was so pro arsenal just like the commentary team
Agreed. I’m sure Roger’s was booked for calling the ref a cheat.
And Merson has lost any affection I had for him.
And even Hendrie didn’t do his job as a biased Villa fan!
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What has Merson done? 😂 from what I saw post match he criticised Arsenal and described the handball as blatant.
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If Hendrie was biased to us as much as the others are they’d ditch him.
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Reasonabale point in the end.
Hard to please
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Watched up to 2-1. Knew there’d been another goal but not who for. Great result all things considered.
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We’re not as free flowing as pre xmas last season. But we’ve had PSR challenges, we’re doing unbelievably well in the champions league, and despite not being brilliant all season, we are right in the mix for the top 4 again.
No one is beyond criticism but Unai is as close as it gets.
Contrasting emotions through the match. Despite the hyperbole amongst some on the match thread, I thought we were well in the game at half time. Thought we were dead and buried at 0-2, but our resilience to come back and stay strong defensively was impressive. Kamara, Digne both great. Bogarde did really well, as did Ollie. Great result and feels like we’re on the march for second half of season.
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Great result.
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First time in 52 Premier League away games we’ve not lost after going 2-0 down.
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Personally I thought it was the most obvious handball of the season, possibly in the history of earth.
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I thought Bogarde played well when he came on especially as he was out of position. He played a great ball to Digne before he crossed for Tielemans' goal.
Also Arteta is the most dislikeable character in English football since Denis Wise.
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Fantastic point in the end .
When did we last come from 2 down away vs a "Sky6" side to get anything , you'd be going back decades , may not have ever happened .
Shout out to Bogarde great performance, Unai clearly likes him.
Our two goals were also both masterpieces, a lovely diving header and a well controlled volley , both from fantastic crosses .
Only downside the injury to Onana and the worryingly poor performance from Maatsen.
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We’re not as free flowing as pre xmas last season. But we’ve had PSR challenges, we’re doing unbelievably well in the champions league, and despite not being brilliant all season, we are right in the mix for the top 4 again.
No one is beyond criticism but Unai is as close as it gets.
Contrasting emotions through the match. Despite the hyperbole amongst some on the match thread, I thought we were well in the game at half time. Thought we were dead and buried at 0-2, but our resilience to come back and stay strong defensively was impressive. Kamara, Digne both great. Bogarde did really well, as did Ollie. Great result and feels like we’re on the march for second half of season.
Good summary - agree with all of it
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A word for the onfield officials , possibly one of the most corrupt performances I've seen for a while particularly second half .
I thought we were pretty poor first half though had a couple of chances , we were yards off the pace and hence conceded . The second goal almost seems to wake us up .
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Very good point today, thought the ref did his best to give Arsenal the win though, nothing went our way until the (correctly) disallowed goal.
Good bench too, especially with Malen and Emi B as unused options, plus McGinn and Ross to come back too.
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I thought Bogarde played well when he came on especially as he was out of position. He played a great ball to Digne before he crossed for Tielemans' goal.
Also Arteta is the most dislikeable character in English football since Denis Wise.
.he looked better in cm than at right back. Started slow 1st half but grew into game as went on. He also almost scored. Was happy with his performance although at first i found it a very wierd sub
.gutted malen didnt get any game time.
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The worst ever refereeing of a game as you’ll see. Gave them everything, I mean everything. It must have galled him to make the imaginary TV screen to rule out the goal.
I thought defensively we were very good, Digne makes us stronger. Hopefully they can all stay fit.
What’s that song/hymn the sing before the game, it seems to have appeared put of nowhere.
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Great comeback today, showed some resilience 2nd half and real quality In patches. A very decent week with Monaco next, with Duran nicely rested and ready. I questioned Bogarde coming on, but he did great in the middle and had some key moments, which should give him some confidence. Havertz claiming the ball hit his chest was comedy gold...
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Check out bogardes stats, absolutely unbelievable. Real promise there
https://x.com/AVFCStatto/status/1880700902837031255?t=jjWC0NaY1QQ5cratdXxnlQ&s=19
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AFTV. To be enjoyed.
https://x.com/aftvmedia/status/1880702204715082084?s=46
Jesus Suffering Fuck
That bloke after their second has the mother of all wedgies.
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I thought Bogarde played well when he came on especially as he was out of position. He played a great ball to Digne before he crossed for Tielemans' goal.
Also Arteta is the most dislikeable character in English football since Denis Wise.
.he looked better in cm than at right back. Started slow 1st half but grew into game as went on. He also almost scored. Was happy with his performance although at first i found it a very wierd sub
.gutted malen didnt get any game time.
You found it a weird sub, but it wasn’t as it worked well. Bogarde’s natural position is cdm as opposed to defence.
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Someone was asking on the match thread, when did we last come from 2 goals down against a Sky 6 team?
Well, I was at Highbury for a glorious night in '96 when we did just that. Did we manage to do it again in the 29 years since?...can't remember
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A word for the onfield officials , possibly one of the most corrupt performances I've seen for a while particularly second half .
I thought we were pretty poor first half though had a couple of chances , we were yards off the pace and hence conceded . The second goal almost seems to wake us up .
I thought we were pretty poor for the majority of the game. Digne was only one of back five I was happy with. Maatsen blew his big chance, Cash was roasted by a man in top form, wasn't impressed by either centre back if I'm honest. Konsa left Cash far too isolated and too much got past his post. Mings still is nowhere near his best for me, lots of fouling maybe to be expected after so long out. Just half a yard short at times. Martinez shite for both goals.
Kamara was decent again, Bogarde tried very hard next to him and Watkins put a fair old shift in. Got very little from our de facto wide men, Rogers improved a bit on left late on. Rogers at start of second half and Bailey at end completely failed to track their men and really should have been punished. Disappointed in Ramsey really, he jumped out of a tackle with Partey in the second half that I was sure Emery would hook him minutes later as a result. Minding himself too much and was bullied by a midfielder out of position.
Any day you go 2-0 down at Arsenal and draw is a great result but our form worries me. It's like we are doing enough lately in 20-30 min spells to get results but that's not really sustainable. If there's any chance we could get Luiz back this month we should take it. There's something lacking in our team.
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Fantastic point in the end .
When did we last come from 2 down away vs a "Sky6" side to get anything , you'd be going back decades , may not have ever happened .
Shout out to Bogarde great performance, Unai clearly likes him.
Our two goals were also both masterpieces, a lovely diving header and a well controlled volley , both from fantastic crosses .
Only downside the injury to Onana and the worryingly poor performance from Maatsen.
United with Coutinho’ debut wasn’t that long ago (but yes, they’re few and far between - we’re good at giving them up though!)
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Fantastic point in the end .
When did we last come from 2 down away vs a "Sky6" side to get anything , you'd be going back decades , may not have ever happened .
Shout out to Bogarde great performance, Unai clearly likes him.
Our two goals were also both masterpieces, a lovely diving header and a well controlled volley , both from fantastic crosses .
Only downside the injury to Onana and the worryingly poor performance from Maatsen.
United with Coutinho’ debut wasn’t that long ago (but yes, they’re few and far between - we’re good at giving them up though!)
That was at Villa Park , I said away , possibly decades ago , if ever .
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It’s amazing how far we’ve come in a relatively short time. A Gerrard team would have just capitulated. Unai is a very clever man a great manager and a joy to have.
Not the prettiest performance but super goals and the job got done. A draw there is good especially from 2 nil down.
Well done
This is worth reposting. These are halcyon times.
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I didn’t think there was a chance we’d come back, but fair play 2-0 away at Arsenal and getting a point is a terrific result. Both goals we conceded weren’t great, but great character. Point won.
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I dunno if we were two down but I remember a 2-2 at Highbury in the white AST kit, Yorke and Savo scored. Obviously we were a decent side then as well.
Throw in at least two games at Spurs in the 90s-2000s where we came back from two down to score four and five respectively. Obviously they were considered "big five" back then even though we frequently finished above them or beat them in those days.
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Someone was asking on the match thread, when did we last come from 2 goals down against a Sky 6 team?
Well, I was at Highbury for a glorious night in '96 when we did just that. Did we manage to do it again in the 29 years since?...can't remember
If you mean December '96, don't think we were 2-0 down in that game.
Edit: just looked and you meant the LC game in February. Ignore me 🙂
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Someone was asking on the match thread, when did we last come from 2 goals down against a Sky 6 team?
Well, I was at Highbury for a glorious night in '96 when we did just that. Did we manage to do it again in the 29 years since?...can't remember
If you mean December '96, don't think we were 2-0 down in that game.
He prob means the league cup semi final. The game in the white kit was the following campaign.
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Someone was asking on the match thread, when did we last come from 2 goals down against a Sky 6 team?
Well, I was at Highbury for a glorious night in '96 when we did just that. Did we manage to do it again in the 29 years since?...can't remember
If you mean December '96, don't think we were 2-0 down in that game.
He prob means the league cup semi final. The game in the white kit was the following campaign.
Sorry yep, my mistake!
I was 5 at the time of the LC game and hadn't been to VP yet, so don't remember it.
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A word for the onfield officials , possibly one of the most corrupt performances I've seen for a while particularly second half .
I thought we were pretty poor first half though had a couple of chances , we were yards off the pace and hence conceded . The second goal almost seems to wake us up .
I thought we were pretty poor for the majority of the game. Digne was only one of back five I was happy with. Maatsen blew his big chance, Cash was roasted by a man in top form, wasn't impressed by either centre back if I'm honest. Konsa left Cash far too isolated and too much got past his post. Mings still is nowhere near his best for me, lots of fouling maybe to be expected after so long out. Just half a yard short at times. Martinez shite for both goals.
Kamara was decent again, Bogarde tried very hard next to him and Watkins put a fair old shift in. Got very little from our de facto wide men, Rogers improved a bit on left late on. Rogers at start of second half and Bailey at end completely failed to track their men and really should have been punished. Disappointed in Ramsey really, he jumped out of a tackle with Partey in the second half that I was sure Emery would hook him minutes later as a result. Minding himself too much and was bullied by a midfielder out of position.
Any day you go 2-0 down at Arsenal and draw is a great result but our form worries me. It's like we are doing enough lately in 20-30 min spells to get results but that's not really sustainable. If there's any chance we could get Luiz back this month we should take it. There's something lacking in our team.
Jeeese. Imagine what you’re like when we lose
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A word for the onfield officials , possibly one of the most corrupt performances I've seen for a while particularly second half .
I thought we were pretty poor first half though had a couple of chances , we were yards off the pace and hence conceded . The second goal almost seems to wake us up .
I thought we were pretty poor for the majority of the game. Digne was only one of back five I was happy with. Maatsen blew his big chance, Cash was roasted by a man in top form, wasn't impressed by either centre back if I'm honest. Konsa left Cash far too isolated and too much got past his post. Mings still is nowhere near his best for me, lots of fouling maybe to be expected after so long out. Just half a yard short at times. Martinez shite for both goals.
Kamara was decent again, Bogarde tried very hard next to him and Watkins put a fair old shift in. Got very little from our de facto wide men, Rogers improved a bit on left late on. Rogers at start of second half and Bailey at end completely failed to track their men and really should have been punished. Disappointed in Ramsey really, he jumped out of a tackle with Partey in the second half that I was sure Emery would hook him minutes later as a result. Minding himself too much and was bullied by a midfielder out of position.
Any day you go 2-0 down at Arsenal and draw is a great result but our form worries me. It's like we are doing enough lately in 20-30 min spells to get results but that's not really sustainable. If there's any chance we could get Luiz back this month we should take it. There's something lacking in our team.
Jeeese. Imagine what you’re like when we lose
All sorts of opinions matter, but it's a bit of a stretch to be critical of 4 points on the road inside a few days, especially against a very impressive opponent today.
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Someone was asking on the match thread, when did we last come from 2 goals down against a Sky 6 team?
Well, I was at Highbury for a glorious night in '96 when we did just that. Did we manage to do it again in the 29 years since?...can't remember
If you mean December '96, don't think we were 2-0 down in that game.
He prob means the league cup semi final. The game in the white kit was the following campaign.
He does mean that yes. Not a dissimilar game. We went 2-0 down before we even got going, Berkamp leading us a merry dance IIRC. Then, we woke up, couple of great strikes from Yorkie and Savo, and it was 2-2. The home return was 0-0 over an 120 mins that seemed like 120 hours. I remember Yorke running into a corner towards then end like he just wanted a snooze for 5 mins. The lads barely had enough left to raise their hands in celebration at the end...
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If you haven’t seen it already AFTV is great viewing tonight. The post match interview outside the Emirates is comedy gold.
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Got to say, looking back at the 2 goals we conceded, Emi was very poor for both of them.
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When I saw the team sheet, I thought we actually looked the better squad on paper. But it was a great point, in the end.
After defending well in the first 10 minutes, I thought we were managing the game quite well until they scored, after which we looked ragged through to half time. But we had shown enough to suggest we could get back in the game.
Onana is made of glass. Or he’s a fair weather player who doesn’t fancy it when things aren’t going our way (lost count of the number of times he’s gone off just as the game turns against us). Or he’s unlucky. Or all three.
Tielemans just couldn’t find his passing range, but more than made up for that in the last half hour.
Neither of our full backs were getting tight enough on the wide men. Digne helped improve that after the break.
JJ was poor all game, lots of technical errors. Rogers didn’t really get going in forward areas, and looked flustered most of the time
Hard to know what to make of Bogarde. He looked a bit lightweight in there to me, but I like his passing (studious, very little wastage), including in the lead up to the first goal. Shame he didn’t hammer that chance in.
Ollie is really letting rip with his celebrations when he scores.
The rest were Lions, but none more than Kamara, who was the best player on the park by a country mile.
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Great to come back from two down and earn a point against a highly fancied if vile, horrible club with a lego headed wanker for a Manager and a referee who was utterly incompetent. Credit to Cash for the cross for Ollie's goal, wish he'd do it more often. Could quite easily have accepted no points for the two away games this week, to get 4 is an absolute bonus and Unai has definitely turned our form around. Two nice goals for us but I felt that theirs included piss poor defending from us. Really pleased with the point and the performance.
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If you haven’t seen it already AFTV is great viewing tonight. The post match interview outside the Emirates is comedy gold.
If you could harness the delusion there as a power source north London wouldn't need to trouble the National Grid.
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We really need to stop being slow out the traps . I'm not sure if it's by design though.
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Fantastic point in the end .
When did we last come from 2 down away vs a "Sky6" side to get anything , you'd be going back decades , may not have ever happened .
Shout out to Bogarde great performance, Unai clearly likes him.
Our two goals were also both masterpieces, a lovely diving header and a well controlled volley , both from fantastic crosses .
Only downside the injury to Onana and the worryingly poor performance from Maatsen.
United with Coutinho’ debut wasn’t that long ago (but yes, they’re few and far between - we’re good at giving them up though!)
That was at Villa Park , I said away , possibly decades ago , if ever .
That’ll teach me for skim reading and trying to be a smart arse 🤣🤣
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Got to say, looking back at the 2 goals we conceded, Emi was very poor for both of them.
Not sure I see that. They’re both from close range and if it doesn’t hit him in exactly the right place he’s never stopping them.
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Got to say, looking back at the 2 goals we conceded, Emi was very poor for both of them.
Hasn't been at his best this season in all honesty.
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Just looking at the table and our goal difference is f**king awful. It's all so tight points wise this season that it could really make a difference in the end. A couple of thrashings wouldn't go astray in the coming weeks.
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Those Digne and Cash crosses were pure filth. We have the best goalkeeper in the world.
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Just looking at the table and our goal difference is f**king awful. It's all so tight points wise this season that it could really make a difference in the end. A couple of thrashings wouldn't go astray in the coming weeks.
Pretty sure we discussed (last season) how often goal difference is a decider when it comes to CL qualification.
Not often.
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Just looking at the table and our goal difference is f**king awful. It's all so tight points wise this season that it could really make a difference in the end. A couple of thrashings wouldn't go astray in the coming weeks.
Yes you are right, but its goals conceded that’s the problem.
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We obsess with goal difference every year and it hardly ever makes a difference. I do like correcting the mathematically-challenged who like to insist that it's "worth a point", though.
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Can anyone tell me what happened with Cash? He seemed to end up in a pile in the floor off the ball and needed treatment for a bleeding mouth.
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Those Digne and Cash crosses were pure filth. We have the best goalkeeper in the world.
Digne has been one of our players of the season , we looked much better once he was on . Maatsen had a troubling 45 mins .
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Impressive comeback despite playing against 12 men & the 5th official Arteta. The sense of entitlement from those fuckers is nauseous.
When the ball comes into the box we need to attack the ball instead of waiting. Tielemans was man of the match. Bogarde there's a player in there & bringing him on in a game like that is a big indication that Unai thinks so too.
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While it wasn’t a win like last season ultimately them throwing away two points could have the same impact. That once again Unai Emery, the man so many of them still ridicule, has fucked them over, the massively entitled tarquins in royal fashion in their bid for a title.
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Soccer!!
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I thought it would be entertaining to dip into the Gooners forum. It's quite an experience. The level of insults towards our club and our city was vile. First off the matchday thread was titled Villa Vulvas. The rest was a pretty unhinged take on today's match and a random sprinkling of casual racism and and personal insults to our players and and especially our manager. There doesn't appear to be any moderators or if there is they're extremely lenient. They're so horrible as a fan base I can actually say something I never thought I would. I hope Liverpool win the league. There i've said it now. I'd better go and scrub myself.
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It definitely felt like a win , and nothing better than spoiling their season again .
We are building momentum at exactly the right time. UTFV .
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JJ has missed a lot of football and it is showing, he will barring more injuries get faster and stronger. Perhaps now we will see more crosses from wide players, it's been missing for too long.
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We obsess with goal difference every year and it hardly ever makes a difference. I do like correcting the mathematically-challenged who like to insist that it's "worth a point", though.
There was a potential set of results this weekend that would have left 4 teams on 38 points. Goal difference would have meant the difference between 4th and 8th, with us being in 8th. I know it's not the end of the season and presumably some of those teams will take points off eachother before the end, but it's an incredibly close table this season. Goal difference could very well come into it.
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I'm moving to the opinion it will. So we just need to ensure we match the points of the 2nd or 3rd team instead of the 5th.
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Two points dropped, disappointing.
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Got to say, looking back at the 2 goals we conceded, Emi was very poor for both of them.
Don't agree. Goalkeepers can often look clumsy due to ricochets and awkward bounces and are obvious target for blame due to being the proverbial last chance saloon. It's easy to forget that by 30 minutes gone he had made two fab saves to keep us in the game.
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I’ve come home from there today with a real sense of pride. I thought that second half performance was a show of strength and resilience, and it feels like a win to me. Hats off to them.
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Got to say, looking back at the 2 goals we conceded, Emi was very poor for both of them.
Don't agree. Goalkeepers can often look clumsy due to ricochets and awkward bounces and are obvious target for blame due to being the proverbial last chance saloon. It's easy to forget that by 30 minutes gone he had made two fab saves to keep us in the game.
Same here. We allowed two clean struck shots at him from crosses in the 6 yard box, in those cases it is more luck than judgement that saves are made, ie he can do what he can but the bounce and spin on the ball also needs to favour and in both of those they didn't. The first one was cm's from being a tremendous save if you look at the hawkeye. The second could easily have spun wide of the far post but spun inside of it.
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All sorts of opinions matter, but it's a bit of a stretch to be critical of 4 points on the road inside a few days, especially against a very impressive opponent today.
And put a couple of new manager bounces to bed with total efficiency.
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I thought it would be entertaining to dip into the Gooners forum. It's quite an experience. The level of insults towards our club and our city was vile. First off the matchday thread was titled Villa Vulvas. The rest was a pretty unhinged take on today's match and a random sprinkling of casual racism and and personal insults to our players and and especially our manager. There doesn't appear to be any moderators or if there is they're extremely lenient. They're so horrible as a fan base I can actually say something I never thought I would. I hope Liverpool win the league. There i've said it now. I'd better go and scrub myself.
Interesting.
I think I'd err on the side of downplaying silly names for the opposition if my club's name literally began with 'Arse'.
Unless they ever play Penistone Church FC (yes I had to look it up) they've lost that little battle before it even begins.
Edit: or perhaps
(https://i.ibb.co/mBWLVBt/images.png) (https://ibb.co/mBWLVBt)
Any others? Is there a 'Wanktown Wanderers'?
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I’ve come home from there today with a real sense of pride. I thought that second half performance was a show of strength and resilience, and it feels like a win to me. Hats off to them.
Felt like we had real leaders out there 2nd half and a resilience rarely associated with us . It hopefully gives them all belief now to take the next step. Huge games ahead .
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I thought it would be entertaining to dip into the Gooners forum. It's quite an experience. The level of insults towards our club and our city was vile. First off the matchday thread was titled Villa Vulvas. The rest was a pretty unhinged take on today's match and a random sprinkling of casual racism and and personal insults to our players and and especially our manager. There doesn't appear to be any moderators or if there is they're extremely lenient. They're so horrible as a fan base I can actually say something I never thought I would. I hope Liverpool win the league. There i've said it now. I'd better go and scrub myself.
Interesting.
I think I'd err on the side of downplaying silly names for the opposition if my club's name literally began with 'Arse'.
Unless they ever play Penistone Church FC (yes I had to look it up) they've lost that little battle before it even begins.
Edit: or perhaps
(https://i.ibb.co/mBWLVBt/images.png) (https://ibb.co/mBWLVBt)
Any others? Is there a 'Wanktown Wanderers'?
Yes. They play in gold and black and their home ground is called Molineux.
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Brilliant comeback and brilliant away day.
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They really do dislike us and I find that just wonderful.
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They really do dislike us and I find that just wonderful.
Always said we'll know when we're properly back when twats like this mob stop patting us on the head and hate us because we spoil their fun.
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I think we can all agree that using female genitalia, not just the asterisks vulgarity but an actual properly named anatomical part, as an insult, is deeply classy and reconstructed
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I thought it would be entertaining to dip into the Gooners forum. It's quite an experience. The level of insults towards our club and our city was vile. First off the matchday thread was titled Villa Vulvas. The rest was a pretty unhinged take on today's match and a random sprinkling of casual racism and and personal insults to our players and and especially our manager. There doesn't appear to be any moderators or if there is they're extremely lenient. They're so horrible as a fan base I can actually say something I never thought I would. I hope Liverpool win the league. There i've said it now. I'd better go and scrub myself.
Interesting.
I think I'd err on the side of downplaying silly names for the opposition if my club's name literally began with 'Arse'.
Unless they ever play Penistone Church FC (yes I had to look it up) they've lost that little battle before it even begins.
Edit: or perhaps
(https://i.ibb.co/mBWLVBt/images.png) (https://ibb.co/mBWLVBt)
Any others? Is there a 'Wanktown Wanderers'?
Yes. They play in gold and black and their home ground is called Molineux.
I hope that the villages of Shitterton and Crapstone sport a club side each...
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I think we can all agree that using female genitalia, not just the asterisks vulgarity but an actual properly named anatomical part, as an insult, is deeply classy and reconstructed
My guy, thank you. Hero
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Racking afternoon with some of the London Lions and a great fight back to get a hard earned point.
I was annoyed at our inability to stop crosses coming in for both goals and thought we could be overrun after the second went in. Great effort by the players to stay in the game and big shout out to every one of them for digging in and showing we could be dangerous on the break.
I thought Kamara was again excellent and Mings led the defence well but I’d add a big shout to Bogarde who helped the defensive midfield effort and didn’t look out of place. No mean feat against a team as good as Arsenal.
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I thought it would be entertaining to dip into the Gooners forum. It's quite an experience. The level of insults towards our club and our city was vile. First off the matchday thread was titled Villa Vulvas. The rest was a pretty unhinged take on today's match and a random sprinkling of casual racism and and personal insults to our players and and especially our manager. There doesn't appear to be any moderators or if there is they're extremely lenient. They're so horrible as a fan base I can actually say something I never thought I would. I hope Liverpool win the league. There i've said it now. I'd better go and scrub myself.
Interesting.
I think I'd err on the side of downplaying silly names for the opposition if my club's name literally began with 'Arse'.
Unless they ever play Penistone Church FC (yes I had to look it up) they've lost that little battle before it even begins.
Edit: or perhaps
(https://i.ibb.co/mBWLVBt/images.png) (https://ibb.co/mBWLVBt)
Any others? Is there a 'Wanktown Wanderers'?
Yes. They play in gold and black and their home ground is called Molineux.
I hope that the villages of Shitterton and Crapstone sport a club side each...
To spare Arse's embarrassment, I may start a new club.
Welcome, volunteers, to Felch United!
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That sad crybaby fan at the end. Sums them up
Disappointed that the cameras chose to focus on him when that's so obviously what he was after, the attention-seeking twat.
That was hilarious. He'll be a meme by Monday morning. Warhol was right about everyone being famous for fifteen minutes.
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Mings was immense once again. Tuchel looking on, hopefully he gets his England place back.
Bouba once again motm.
Great point and thoroughly deserved. Well done lads.
Wasn't Mings ball-watching for Havertz's goal?
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AFTV. To be enjoyed.
https://x.com/aftvmedia/status/1880702204715082084?s=46
It's not the same without the lady in the boots. :(
Nice to such a roomful of tw*ts being disappointed though.
Imagine the H&V version of this...a crowd of geezers round Demitri's mancave. Risso losing his shit at every misplaced pass. Sexual getting pissed on cheap red wine. PWS on hand with the "Scorchios".
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First time in 52 Premier League away games we’ve not lost after going 2-0 down.
Woeful stat. I wonder is any team as bad as that.
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Mings was immense once again. Tuchel looking on, hopefully he gets his England place back.
Bouba once again motm.
Great point and thoroughly deserved. Well done lads.
Wasn't Mings ball-watching for Havertz's goal?
I thought between both centre half’s it wasn’t great. One of them should have stopped Havertz getting there but neither did.
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A word for the onfield officials , possibly one of the most corrupt performances I've seen for a while particularly second half .
I thought we were pretty poor first half though had a couple of chances , we were yards off the pace and hence conceded . The second goal almost seems to wake us up .
I thought we were pretty poor for the majority of the game. Digne was only one of back five I was happy with. Maatsen blew his big chance, Cash was roasted by a man in top form, wasn't impressed by either centre back if I'm honest. Konsa left Cash far too isolated and too much got past his post. Mings still is nowhere near his best for me, lots of fouling maybe to be expected after so long out. Just half a yard short at times. Martinez shite for both goals.
Kamara was decent again, Bogarde tried very hard next to him and Watkins put a fair old shift in. Got very little from our de facto wide men, Rogers improved a bit on left late on. Rogers at start of second half and Bailey at end completely failed to track their men and really should have been punished. Disappointed in Ramsey really, he jumped out of a tackle with Partey in the second half that I was sure Emery would hook him minutes later as a result. Minding himself too much and was bullied by a midfielder out of position.
Any day you go 2-0 down at Arsenal and draw is a great result but our form worries me. It's like we are doing enough lately in 20-30 min spells to get results but that's not really sustainable. If there's any chance we could get Luiz back this month we should take it. There's something lacking in our team.
Wow..Are you OK? This is an amazing take on a great result. Weirdly, its hard to disagree with many of your points. And yet we just came back from 2 down at Arsenal and all I can feel is joy. And the one thing your post lacks is any joy
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We often slag Cash off for his lack of decent crosses so to see him trust his left foot to sling one in for the equaliser was marvellous.
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A word for the onfield officials , possibly one of the most corrupt performances I've seen for a while particularly second half .
I thought we were pretty poor first half though had a couple of chances , we were yards off the pace and hence conceded . The second goal almost seems to wake us up .
I thought we were pretty poor for the majority of the game. Digne was only one of back five I was happy with. Maatsen blew his big chance, Cash was roasted by a man in top form, wasn't impressed by either centre back if I'm honest. Konsa left Cash far too isolated and too much got past his post. Mings still is nowhere near his best for me, lots of fouling maybe to be expected after so long out. Just half a yard short at times. Martinez shite for both goals.
Kamara was decent again, Bogarde tried very hard next to him and Watkins put a fair old shift in. Got very little from our de facto wide men, Rogers improved a bit on left late on. Rogers at start of second half and Bailey at end completely failed to track their men and really should have been punished. Disappointed in Ramsey really, he jumped out of a tackle with Partey in the second half that I was sure Emery would hook him minutes later as a result. Minding himself too much and was bullied by a midfielder out of position.
Any day you go 2-0 down at Arsenal and draw is a great result but our form worries me. It's like we are doing enough lately in 20-30 min spells to get results but that's not really sustainable. If there's any chance we could get Luiz back this month we should take it. There's something lacking in our team.
Wow..Are you OK? This is an amazing take on a great result. Weirdly, its hard to disagree with many of your points. And yet we just came back from 2 down at Arsenal and all I can feel is joy. And the one thing your post lacks is any joy
You must be new to Billy's posts. That's about as positive as it gets. 🙂
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We’re not as free flowing as pre xmas last season. But we’ve had PSR challenges, we’re doing unbelievably well in the champions league, and despite not being brilliant all season, we are right in the mix for the top 4 again...
... Contrasting emotions through the match. Despite the hyperbole amongst some on the match thread, I thought we were well in the game at half time. Thought we were dead and buried at 0-2, but our resilience to come back and stay strong defensively was impressive. Kamara, Digne both great. Bogarde did really well, as did Ollie. Great result and feels like we’re on the march for second half of season.
Very well summed up; reflecting my thoughts.
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All sorts of opinions matter, but it's a bit of a stretch to be critical of 4 points on the road inside a few days, especially against a very impressive opponent today.
And put a couple of new manager bounces to bed with total efficiency.
I'll say it.
I think we're building to a very special season.
Let's try and enjoy the ride!
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Great comeback when I thought we were finished after their second, both of which I thought we should have done better with. We even had a few chances to snatch a win.
Bloody hell the last few minutes were painful mind, we just couldn't seem to keep the ball and we got deeper and deeper.
Glad the handball was called, about the only decision we got all game from the ref.
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We'll win the league with Emery long before Arsenal do with Arteta.
Special shout out for Morgan Rogers who got booked for telling the ref "you're fucking shit".
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Delighted with the point. We didn't buckle and altered the game plan a bit to get back into it. If we have some luck with injuries, we could have a very decent run in.
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Great comeback when I thought we were finished after their second, both of which I thought we should have done better with. We even had a few chances to snatch a win.
Bloody hell the last few minutes were painful mind, we just couldn't seem to keep the ball and we got deeper and deeper.
Glad the handball was called, about the only decision we got all game from the ref.
The officials were corrupt no other word for it. Every single decision went to them , fouls, throws , corners not given that were, allowing them to take throws and free kicks from the wrong position leaving us out of position, the only fouls he gave us was to pull us back from a threatening counter . Even foul throws went unnoticed .
Thought for their two goals Kamara gave Trossard far too much time and space to pick a cross, Maatsen is asleep goal 1 , Martinez almost pulls off another worldie . Goal 2 cash gives too much time for the cross could Konsa and Mings have been tighter ? Though it was a perfectly measured cross , Martinez I think can do better with that one too.
We got away with a big Trossard miss at the end , again Cash has let him go.
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Kai Havertz is fucking cheat. If he’s not holding his face or diving or handling the ball it’s always something.
Their whole team is a bunch of whining, cheats. They get it from their fans and manager.
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Credit where it's due to the lads for that comeback against a very good team. No doubt that the Arse were the better team in the first half, but having said that, I thought we still had a few decent opportunities ourselves. Loving Morgan Rogers in midfield. He's an absolute beast.
Looking forward to going to work tomorrow, because although I work in Rochdale, there's quite a few Arse fans (Need to be careful saying Arse fans and Rochdale in the same sentence!). I can't wait to hear their moaning tomorrow. Think I'll wear something claret and blue tomorrow.
UTV
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That's also five unbeaten, which helps us build a bit of momentum. We do need to string a few back-to-back wins together like Leicester/Everton, to keep the pressure on for Champions League places, but considering we'd all agree our form has been quite spotty so far this season, I think it's a testament to Unai's side that we're still only two points off a Champions League place, and we also have a few of the teams around us still to come to VP.
Say it quietly, but this is beginning to feel like one of those "coming in under the radar" seasons.
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I thought it would be entertaining to dip into the Gooners forum. It's quite an experience. The level of insults towards our club and our city was vile. First off the matchday thread was titled Villa Vulvas. The rest was a pretty unhinged take on today's match and a random sprinkling of casual racism and and personal insults to our players and and especially our manager. There doesn't appear to be any moderators or if there is they're extremely lenient. They're so horrible as a fan base I can actually say something I never thought I would. I hope Liverpool win the league. There i've said it now. I'd better go and scrub myself.
They're easily the worst fans in the division.
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Great comeback when I thought we were finished after their second, both of which I thought we should have done better with. We even had a few chances to snatch a win.
Bloody hell the last few minutes were painful mind, we just couldn't seem to keep the ball and we got deeper and deeper.
Glad the handball was called, about the only decision we got all game from the ref.
The officials were corrupt no other word for it. Every single decision went to them , fouls, throws , corners not given that were, allowing them to take throws and free kicks from the wrong position leaving us out of position, the only fouls he gave us was to pull us back from a threatening counter . Even foul throws went unnoticed .
Thought for their two goals Kamara gave Trossard far too much time and space to pick a cross, Maatsen is asleep goal 1 , Martinez almost pulls off another worldie . Goal 2 cash gives too much time for the cross could Konsa and Mings have been tighter ? Though it was a perfectly measured cross , Martinez I think can do better with that one too.
We got away with a big Trossard miss at the end , again Cash has let him go.
The Trossard miss at the end was given as offside. Emi took the free kick from the edge of the 18 yard box.
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We'll win the league with Emery long before Arsenal do with Arteta.
Special shout out for Morgan Rogers who got booked for telling the ref "you're fucking shit".
I remember not so long ago seeing a clip of StuntPeg on Sky and they were all talking about Arteta and Emery (not 100% sure why?) and she was saying it was an insult to Emery to compare Arteta to him. Arteta has won nothing as a manager and Emery has had success every we're he's managed. The rest of them were shocked but I think ultimately agreed with her in the end.
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I thought it would be entertaining to dip into the Gooners forum. It's quite an experience. The level of insults towards our club and our city was vile. First off the matchday thread was titled Villa Vulvas. The rest was a pretty unhinged take on today's match and a random sprinkling of casual racism and and personal insults to our players and and especially our manager. There doesn't appear to be any moderators or if there is they're extremely lenient. They're so horrible as a fan base I can actually say something I never thought I would. I hope Liverpool win the league. There i've said it now. I'd better go and scrub myself.
They're easily the worst fans in the division.
They really are the most bitter, entitled pricks.
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Great comeback when I thought we were finished after their second, both of which I thought we should have done better with. We even had a few chances to snatch a win.
Bloody hell the last few minutes were painful mind, we just couldn't seem to keep the ball and we got deeper and deeper.
Glad the handball was called, about the only decision we got all game from the ref.
The officials were corrupt no other word for it. Every single decision went to them , fouls, throws , corners not given that were, allowing them to take throws and free kicks from the wrong position leaving us out of position, the only fouls he gave us was to pull us back from a threatening counter . Even foul throws went unnoticed .
Thought for their two goals Kamara gave Trossard far too much time and space to pick a cross, Maatsen is asleep goal 1 , Martinez almost pulls off another worldie . Goal 2 cash gives too much time for the cross could Konsa and Mings have been tighter ? Though it was a perfectly measured cross , Martinez I think can do better with that one too.
We got away with a big Trossard miss at the end , again Cash has let him go.
The Trossard miss at the end was given as offside. Emi took the free kick from the edge of the 18 yard box.
Yeah but if he'd scored it would of gone to VAR and they'd of got the dodgy ruler out the drawer .
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I’m not totally convinced the ball hit Havertz’s arm for the disallowed goal…..it looks like it came off the pointy pit of his hip bone.
But, hey ho.
Shit happens. We should have had a corner that wasn’t given.
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Great comeback when I thought we were finished after their second, both of which I thought we should have done better with. We even had a few chances to snatch a win.
Bloody hell the last few minutes were painful mind, we just couldn't seem to keep the ball and we got deeper and deeper.
Glad the handball was called, about the only decision we got all game from the ref.
The officials were corrupt no other word for it. Every single decision went to them , fouls, throws , corners not given that were, allowing them to take throws and free kicks from the wrong position leaving us out of position, the only fouls he gave us was to pull us back from a threatening counter . Even foul throws went unnoticed .
Thought for their two goals Cash on both occasions gave Trossard far too much time and space to pick a cross, Maatsen is asleep goal 1 , Martinez almost pulls off another worldie . Goal 2 could Konsa and Mings have been tighter ? Though it was a perfectly measured cross , Martinez I think can do better with that one too.
We got away with a big Trossard miss at the end , again Cash has let him go.
Bailey was at fault for that one at end. Cash was dragged to the other forward. Our right flank was roasted really, Trossard was outstanding but Cash had little protection from Rogers or Bailey when he came in. Konsa is nowhere for the second, Mings slow to react too but Konsa can't be letting the ball across there. Defensively we were poor yesterday, I've been one of Torres biggest critics but I don't think Mings has had the expected impact in (re)organising that defence.
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Them and Newcastle are the biggest wanker teams by far.
Not talking about fans but the players and coaches, they have absolutely no class whatsoever.
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I’m not totally convinced the ball hit Havertz’s arm for the disallowed goal…..it looks like it came off the pointy pit of his hip bone.
But, hey ho.
Shit happens. We should have had a corner that wasn’t given.
It 100% hits his arm , even Havertz seemingly admits it to a team mate .
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It came off his hip, and then his hand . I don't know how much he knew about it though, because he wasn't looking at the ball as it made contact and was diverted directly into the net. If he did that deliberately I'm almost impressed at it.
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Great comeback when I thought we were finished after their second, both of which I thought we should have done better with. We even had a few chances to snatch a win.
Bloody hell the last few minutes were painful mind, we just couldn't seem to keep the ball and we got deeper and deeper.
Glad the handball was called, about the only decision we got all game from the ref.
The officials were corrupt no other word for it. Every single decision went to them , fouls, throws , corners not given that were, allowing them to take throws and free kicks from the wrong position leaving us out of position, the only fouls he gave us was to pull us back from a threatening counter . Even foul throws went unnoticed .
Thought for their two goals Kamara gave Trossard far too much time and space to pick a cross, Maatsen is asleep goal 1 , Martinez almost pulls off another worldie . Goal 2 cash gives too much time for the cross could Konsa and Mings have been tighter ? Though it was a perfectly measured cross , Martinez I think can do better with that one too.
We got away with a big Trossard miss at the end , again Cash has let him go.
He was offside anyway although i've had to watch it again this morning to prove it to myself as the one eyed commentator brushed the offside suggestion away. He was well off.
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It came off his elbow, I'm 100% sure. I don't know how much he knew about it though, because he wasn't looking at the ball as it made contact and was diverted directly into the net. If he did that deliberately I'm almost impressed at it.
Came off the inner forearm and the rules are it doesn't matter if he meant it or not .
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It came off his elbow, I'm 100% sure. I don't know how much he knew about it though, because he wasn't looking at the ball as it made contact and was diverted directly into the net. If he did that deliberately I'm almost impressed at it.
It came off his arm/elbow. He completely changed the direction of the ball with his arm. His actions afterwards were telling of him and what Arsenal have become.The way he celebrated the goal was laughable surely he knows its going to be disallowed due to the numerous camera angles they have these days? Then he's seen showing the ref his ribcage trying to get away with it. He's probably the worst cheat in the PL right now. And the club choosing to show a replay on the big screens using the only camera angle that wasn't conclusive. Clearly an attempt to intimidate the officials. The days of the marble halls and classy a reputation at Highbury are long gone. From the manager to the Tarquins on the terraces they have become the polar opposite to classy.
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It comes from 20 years of Wenger being the most myopic, graceless prick and Arteta is just following in.
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Little word for Tayls on the OS commentary: class.
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It comes from 20 years of Wenger being the most myopic, graceless prick and Arteta is just following in.
In his motd interview I was surprised he wasn’t more classless about the handball tbh. Such are his low standards.
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I was disappointed we scraped a draw, it was probably the weakest Arse team they have fielded this season. Too many players were poor Maatsen crap and Onana obviously not able to cope physically.
We should have gone 1 up but Watkins again fluffed his lines, redeeming himself with the equaliser but if we had taken the lead I think we win the game. Cash similar lets Trossard cross easily for their goal then sublime cross to Watkins.
We are still unable to beat the top teams. Tielemans superb second half.
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I’m not totally convinced the ball hit Havertz’s arm for the disallowed goal…..it looks like it came off the pointy pit of his hip bone.
But, hey ho.
Shit happens. We should have had a corner that wasn’t given.
No offence Andy but you should have given up refereeing after the England Argentina 86 game mate.
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I’m not totally convinced the ball hit Havertz’s arm for the disallowed goal…..it looks like it came off the pointy pit of his hip bone.
But, hey ho.
Shit happens. We should have had a corner that wasn’t given.
No offence Andy but you should have given up refereeing after the England Argentina 86 game mate.
In my defence, I’ve only seen it from the match coverage, not any subsequent analysis.
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Credit due for Bogarde. Thought he did very well in the middle.
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I was disappointed we scraped a draw, it was probably the weakest Arse team they have fielded this season. Too many players were poor Maatsen crap and Onana obviously not able to cope physically.
We should have gone 1 up but Watkins again fluffed his lines, redeeming himself with the equaliser but if we had taken the lead I think we win the game. Cash similar lets Trossard cross easily for their goal then sublime cross to Watkins.
We are still unable to beat the top teams. Tielemans superb second half.
Not sure about that. They only had a couple out of position and Saliba missing. It's not our fault they don't have any strength in depth. Also, I thought Tielemans second effort just after he scored was easier than Ollie's. Why not give a bit of credit for getting something out the game?
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I thought it would be entertaining to dip into the Gooners forum. It's quite an experience. The level of insults towards our club and our city was vile. First off the matchday thread was titled Villa Vulvas. The rest was a pretty unhinged take on today's match and a random sprinkling of casual racism and and personal insults to our players and and especially our manager. There doesn't appear to be any moderators or if there is they're extremely lenient. They're so horrible as a fan base I can actually say something I never thought I would. I hope Liverpool win the league. There i've said it now. I'd better go and scrub myself.
They're easily the worst fans in the division.
They really are the most bitter, entitled pricks.
Obviously, go straight to the part where we score (7:20 onwards).
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We are still unable to beat the top teams. Tielemans superb second half.
I suppose you are right as Mancity are no longer a top team and it’s long time ago when we doubled do this lot.
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Does anyone actually watch these commentaries other than opposition fans taking the piss?
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I’m not totally convinced the ball hit Havertz’s arm for the disallowed goal…..it looks like it came off the pointy pit of his hip bone.
But, hey ho.
Shit happens. We should have had a corner that wasn’t given.
No offence Andy but you should have given up refereeing after the England Argentina 86 game mate.
In my defence, I’ve only seen it from the match coverage, not any subsequent analysis.
Yes, clearly hit the forearm and made the ball loop up and change direction. Purely accidental but didn't take long to rule it out. Emi getting grief for the goals but thought he was unfortunate for both, a few inches either way and could have been worldie saves. Both point blank too. I've got a feeling we'll be OK in Monaco 🇲🇨
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I am off to specsavers tomorrow after reading a couple of comments on here expressing doubt about Havertz volleyball assist yesterday. I obviously need better glasses.
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I’m not totally convinced the ball hit Havertz’s arm for the disallowed goal…..it looks like it came off the pointy pit of his hip bone.
But, hey ho.
Shit happens. We should have had a corner that wasn’t given.
No offence Andy but you should have given up refereeing after the England Argentina 86 game mate.
In my defence, I’ve only seen it from the match coverage, not any subsequent analysis.
You need to watch the replays again .
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I am off to specsavers tomorrow after reading a couple of comments on here expressing doubt about Havertz volleyball assist yesterday. I obviously need better glasses.
They've already been inundated with enquiries in the N7 area. https://x.com/Specsavers/status/1880924747229487312
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I thought it would be entertaining to dip into the Gooners forum. It's quite an experience. The level of insults towards our club and our city was vile. First off the matchday thread was titled Villa Vulvas. The rest was a pretty unhinged take on today's match and a random sprinkling of casual racism and and personal insults to our players and and especially our manager. There doesn't appear to be any moderators or if there is they're extremely lenient. They're so horrible as a fan base I can actually say something I never thought I would. I hope Liverpool win the league. There i've said it now. I'd better go and scrub myself.
They're easily the worst fans in the division.
They really are the most bitter, entitled pricks.
Obviously, go straight to the part where we score (7:20 onwards).
Brilliant, all like 'Roger Nouveau' on The Fast Show..
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Arteta was surprisingly uncvntish in his post match interviews.
Jonathan Pearce trying to enforce his unasked opinion that Arse's young left back was the best he'd seen at the club since Kenny Sansom. Presume Ashley Cole doesn't count.
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I did find amusing that lad who after the game had finished was still sitting there banging the seat in frustration. Silly arse.
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That Arsenal meltdown video is entertaining
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I am off to specsavers tomorrow after reading a couple of comments on here expressing doubt about Havertz volleyball assist yesterday. I obviously need better glasses.
They've already been inundated with enquiries in the N7 area. https://x.com/Specsavers/status/1880924747229487312
Brilliant👀
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I’m not totally convinced the ball hit Havertz’s arm for the disallowed goal…..it looks like it came off the pointy pit of his hip bone.
But, hey ho.
Shit happens. We should have had a corner that wasn’t given.
You don’t really believe that do you? You can’t have really watched it, or you’re on a wind up.
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The thing with Arsenal is that before Wenger they were still getting less than twenty thousand at some matches. The perfect storm of football, London and north London in particular becoming so fashionable, added to their historic sense of superiority, gave them a degree of entitlement unsurpassed anywhere on earth and meant they were the club of choice for footie luvvies everywhere.
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That Arsenal meltdown video is entertaining
No set of fans do meltdown even half as well as gooner fans.
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That Arsenal meltdown video is entertaining
THIS CLUB NEVER LEARNS!!!!! Hahahahaha
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I was disappointed we scraped a draw, it was probably the weakest Arse team they have fielded this season. Too many players were poor Maatsen crap and Onana obviously not able to cope physically.
We should have gone 1 up but Watkins again fluffed his lines, redeeming himself with the equaliser but if we had taken the lead I think we win the game. Cash similar lets Trossard cross easily for their goal then sublime cross to Watkins.
We are still unable to beat the top teams. Tielemans superb second half.
Very happy with the draw in the end, especially as it keeps us firmly in the mix for European football next season. Didn't think it was the greatest performance for us, though we did have some good periods of play. We're just a bit too sloppy, too often and give the ball away too many times which invites pressure on ourselves. It's not just one or two players doing it, it's pretty much the whole team at the moment.
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That Arsenal meltdown video is entertaining
I’ve never really noticed it before, even though it’s been mentioned many times on H&V that Arsenal fans are quite special, but my Twitter feed today is so funny. I’ve never seen such a meltdown as big as this before regarding the disallowed goal. Apparently if it was Salah hand, it would have counted. They seriously think the world is against them. It’s embarrassing but very entertaining.
I might have a tiny bit of sympathy but it was a blatant handball, one of the easiest VAR decisions since it’s been used.
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I was disappointed we scraped a draw, it was probably the weakest Arse team they have fielded this season. Too many players were poor Maatsen crap and Onana obviously not able to cope physically.
We should have gone 1 up but Watkins again fluffed his lines, redeeming himself with the equaliser but if we had taken the lead I think we win the game. Cash similar lets Trossard cross easily for their goal then sublime cross to Watkins.
We are still unable to beat the top teams. Tielemans superb second half.
You do realised they haven’t lost at home since they last played us don’t you? That was a very good result, they are still an excellent team with an exceptionally good midfield.
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Both our goals were excellent.
Their goals were scrappy crap.
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Spent last night in a field with virtually zero reception and the only notification I got was Havertz scoring their third. Very pleased to get to civilisation and find it was 2-2. 😁😁
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I was disappointed we scraped a draw, it was probably the weakest Arse team they have fielded this season. Too many players were poor Maatsen crap and Onana obviously not able to cope physically.
We should have gone 1 up but Watkins again fluffed his lines, redeeming himself with the equaliser but if we had taken the lead I think we win the game. Cash similar lets Trossard cross easily for their goal then sublime cross to Watkins.
We are still unable to beat the top teams. Tielemans superb second half.
You do realised they haven’t lost at home since they last played us don’t you? That was a very good result, they are still an excellent team with an exceptionally good midfield.
It always amazes me when some of our fans search for things to be negative about instead of enjoying a rare moment for us when we've scrapped our way back into a game to earn a valuable point. Especially away at a team 2nd in the league who had aspirations of winning the title. Football fans are a strange breed sometimes.
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I guess what still separates us from the top three is that after coming back from two down, we didn't show much ambition to go on and win it. As if we knew our role - to contain their renewed efforts, drop deep, play on the counter-attack.
If they had scored a late winner, it would have been difficult to say that they didn't deserve it and I guess most of us were just waiting for the inevitable concession in the last few minutes. We're still more plucky than we need to be if we're ever going to properly challenge.
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In a pretty competitive field, Arsenal are the most entitled of all the top London clubs. Over twenty years since they last won the title. Long may that continue.
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I did find amusing that lad who after the game had finished was still sitting there banging the seat in frustration. Silly arse.
Performative nonsense, he knew the camera would pick him up, the twat.
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We did have the Bogarde chance to win it, almost squirmed under the keeper .
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I guess what still separates us from the top three is that after coming back from two down, we didn't show much ambition to go on and win it. As if we knew our role - to contain their renewed efforts, drop deep, play on the counter-attack.
If they had scored a late winner, it would have been difficult to say that they didn't deserve it and I guess most of us were just waiting for the inevitable concession in the last few minutes. We're still more plucky than we need to be if we're ever going to properly challenge.
That's a very good point. It's a state of mind. Even now with them being relatively shite if Man U were to come back from 2-0 down how we did they would be expecting them to get the winner. Players and fans alike.
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I guess what still separates us from the top three is that after coming back from two down, we didn't show much ambition to go on and win it. As if we knew our role - to contain their renewed efforts, drop deep, play on the counter-attack.
If they had scored a late winner, it would have been difficult to say that they didn't deserve it and I guess most of us were just waiting for the inevitable concession in the last few minutes. We're still more plucky than we need to be if we're ever going to properly challenge.
I think our tactics all game was to hit them on the break, it was more of a struggle to get opportunities in the last 10 mins, they are 2nd and unbeaten at home for a reason. I don’t think it was a plucky performance, I think we were pretty clinical, scoring two out of 4 decent chances (Tielemans hitting the post and Bogarde hitting one at Raya the others) and then pretty resilient. Really the only time they broke through our lines was when they hit the most, given Havertz punched it in and Trossard was offside.
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I did find amusing that lad who after the game had finished was still sitting there banging the seat in frustration. Silly arse.
Performative nonsense, he knew the camera would pick him up, the twat.
I think there's a lot of that on these Arsenal TV thingies. It's so over the top, you can tell its for effect. No one gets that angry over a draw.
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I earlier watched Villa on Tour which was 25 minutes mostly advertising London pubs as they went on a pub crawl. Fast forward to when they get into the ground and there's a cameo appearance by our own Darren Wooley giving his score prediction and his big 'up the Villa!'
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I’m not totally convinced the ball hit Havertz’s arm for the disallowed goal…..it looks like it came off the pointy pit of his hip bone.
But, hey ho.
Shit happens. We should have had a corner that wasn’t given.
You don’t really believe that do you? You can’t have really watched it, or you’re on a wind up.
You watch a couple of angles at normal speed and it does look suspect. However the BBC showed conclusively it comes off his arm including zooming in and pausing it.
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I remember not so long ago seeing a clip of StuntPeg on Sky and they were all talking about Arteta and Emery (not 100% sure why?) and she was saying it was an insult to Emery to compare Arteta to him. Arteta has won nothing as a manager and Emery has had success every we're he's managed. The rest of them were shocked but I think ultimately agreed with her in the end.
She does know her stuff. There was an discussion on who was the best RW in the Prem, she raised Salah, some journo stated Beckham because he got all the assists and she instantly shut him down with "Salah is only 5 assists behind Beckham" (he has now overtaken that mark).
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Just catching the highlights again. For the disallowed 3rd goal, very noticeable that Duran initially challenges Rice with Kamara. Then just stops and watches the ball from the edge of the box letting Merino move into acres of space to get his shot away. It is definitely that side he still needs to work on.
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I was disappointed we scraped a draw, it was probably the weakest Arse team they have fielded this season. Too many players were poor Maatsen crap and Onana obviously not able to cope physically.
We should have gone 1 up but Watkins again fluffed his lines, redeeming himself with the equaliser but if we had taken the lead I think we win the game. Cash similar lets Trossard cross easily for their goal then sublime cross to Watkins.
We are still unable to beat the top teams. Tielemans superb second half.
You do realised they haven’t lost at home since they last played us don’t you? That was a very good result, they are still an excellent team with an exceptionally good midfield.
Not sure at all about their midfield. Rice isn't a 6, runs faster going forward than backward. Doesnt have tactical discipline. Merino can't run as seen for our first goal. They had a very inexperienced defence on show and the handful of times we broke with purpose their midfield was nowhere.
I thought we played a lot better against them at Villa Park in all honesty.
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I thought it would be entertaining to dip into the Gooners forum. It's quite an experience. The level of insults towards our club and our city was vile. First off the matchday thread was titled Villa Vulvas. The rest was a pretty unhinged take on today's match and a random sprinkling of casual racism and and personal insults to our players and and especially our manager. There doesn't appear to be any moderators or if there is they're extremely lenient. They're so horrible as a fan base I can actually say something I never thought I would. I hope Liverpool win the league. There i've said it now. I'd better go and scrub myself.
They're easily the worst fans in the division.
They really are the most bitter, entitled pricks.
Obviously, go straight to the part where we score (7:20 onwards).
The bloke doing the Partey impression was hilarious.
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I remember not so long ago seeing a clip of StuntPeg on Sky and they were all talking about Arteta and Emery (not 100% sure why?) and she was saying it was an insult to Emery to compare Arteta to him. Arteta has won nothing as a manager and Emery has had success every we're he's managed. The rest of them were shocked but I think ultimately agreed with her in the end.
She does know her stuff. There was an discussion on who was the best RW in the Prem, she raised Salah, some journo stated Beckham because he got all the assists and she instantly shut him down with "Salah is only 5 assists behind Beckham" (he has not overtaken that mark).
StuntPeg is amazing. Funny too.
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Both our goals were excellent.
Their goals were scrappy crap.
Despite all the changes in modern football, Can't beat a diving header goal .
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A great cross and a great header trumps any other kind of goal for me.
That goal Andy Gray scored against Man Utd at the Holte End, the defender and keeper are just props.
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I thought it would be entertaining to dip into the Gooners forum. It's quite an experience. The level of insults towards our club and our city was vile. First off the matchday thread was titled Villa Vulvas. The rest was a pretty unhinged take on today's match and a random sprinkling of casual racism and and personal insults to our players and and especially our manager. There doesn't appear to be any moderators or if there is they're extremely lenient. They're so horrible as a fan base I can actually say something I never thought I would. I hope Liverpool win the league. There i've said it now. I'd better go and scrub myself.
They're easily the worst fans in the division.
They really are the most bitter, entitled pricks.
Obviously, go straight to the part where we score (7:20 onwards).
The bloke doing the Partey impression was hilarious.
That forum really is vile. I had a look at the anatomy thread after you mentioned it. It looks like the ravings of school kids.
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I’m not totally convinced the ball hit Havertz’s arm for the disallowed goal…..it looks like it came off the pointy pit of his hip bone.
But, hey ho.
Shit happens. We should have had a corner that wasn’t given.
You don’t really believe that do you? You can’t have really watched it, or you’re on a wind up.
You watch a couple of angles at normal speed and it does look suspect. However the BBC showed conclusively it comes off his arm including zooming in and pausing it.
I saw it on the very first replay. Looked fairly obvious to me.
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On a similar thing on angles, it looks so much like an own goal rather than Tielemans head in most of the replays I have seen.
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I could only watch so much of that video. They are so massively dislikeable. I hope they never win the title again. I love that we might have fucked it up for them again also. It’s a delightful feeling.
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I was disappointed we scraped a draw, it was probably the weakest Arse team they have fielded this season. Too many players were poor Maatsen crap and Onana obviously not able to cope physically.
We should have gone 1 up but Watkins again fluffed his lines, redeeming himself with the equaliser but if we had taken the lead I think we win the game. Cash similar lets Trossard cross easily for their goal then sublime cross to Watkins.
We are still unable to beat the top teams. Tielemans superb second half.
You do realised they haven’t lost at home since they last played us don’t you? That was a very good result, they are still an excellent team with an exceptionally good midfield.
Which shows we are not as good as last season.
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Nobody's saying we're playing as well as last season but it's a bit much to.complain about a draw away to a team second in the league.
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Nobody's saying we're playing as well as last season but it's a bit much to.complain about a draw away to a team second in the league.
Coming back from two down.
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Nobody's saying we're playing as well as last season but it's a bit much to.complain about a draw away to a team second in the league.
Coming back from two down.
Theres glass half full, and pint never poured
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A great cross and a great header trumps any other kind of goal for me.
That goal Andy Gray scored against Man Utd at the Holte End, the defender and keeper are just props.
Most keepers were in the net with the ball when Andy charged in.
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The Tarquins and Cressidas are comedy gold and hopefully we've shafted them for the second year running. Its good to add a dose of tragedy to the Hertfordshire commute to Islington, private school fees, the running of 2 Range Rovers and their villa in the Algarve.
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Did Youri definitely head it?
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I do like the Sky highlight video title.
Watkins dents Gunners title hopes AGAIN!
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Did Youri definitely head it?
🤦🏾 eamonn you are taking the piss now, deliberately antagonising us, stop it🙅🏾♂️
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I was just about seconds to give up and move onto another pub because I can't stand Villa losing so I wouldn't have to watch it
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I was disappointed we scraped a draw, it was probably the weakest Arse team they have fielded this season. Too many players were poor Maatsen crap and Onana obviously not able to cope physically.
We should have gone 1 up but Watkins again fluffed his lines, redeeming himself with the equaliser but if we had taken the lead I think we win the game. Cash similar lets Trossard cross easily for their goal then sublime cross to Watkins.
We are still unable to beat the top teams. Tielemans superb second half.
You do realised they haven’t lost at home since they last played us don’t you? That was a very good result, they are still an excellent team with an exceptionally good midfield.
Not sure at all about their midfield. Rice isn't a 6, runs faster going forward than backward. Doesnt have tactical discipline. Merino can't run as seen for our first goal. They had a very inexperienced defence on show and the handful of times we broke with purpose their midfield was nowhere.
I thought we played a lot better against them at Villa Park in all honesty.
Exactly, they really are not all that without White Saliba Saka Jesus.
We were much better at VP and until we took SJM off looked like we would win.
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Exactly, they really are not all that without White Saliba Saka Jesus.
We were much better at VP and until we took SJM off looked like we would win.
Sounds like some gang sign. Although not sure why you included Jesus who only scores against Crystal Palace or White who has been out for half a season again as players who they missed and made them poorer. Just seems to denigrate a good result. Almost as bad as when people were stating how well Spurs were doing last season with their injuries, totally missing out we had Mings and Kamara out.
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Exactly, they really are not all that without White Saliba Saka Jesus.
We were much better at VP and until we took SJM off looked like we would win.
Sounds like some gang sign. Although not sure why you included Jesus who only scores against Crystal Palace or White who has been out for half a season again as players who they missed and made them poorer. Just seems to denigrate a good result. Almost as bad as when people were stating how well Spurs were doing last season with their injuries, totally missing out we had Mings and Kamara out.
There 2 best players are Saka and Saliba, you think they were better than the team we beat last year?
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Do you think our team was as good this year as last year? We were missing the two central defenders who kept the clean sheet, and SJM for example (we were also missing Diaby and Zaniolo but I will concentrate on players still in our current squad).
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Nobody's saying we're playing as well as last season but it's a bit much to.complain about a draw away to a team second in the league.
Coming back from two down.
2-0 down away at Arsenal, who are second in the league and unbeaten at home for a long time and your moaning. I’m pretty sure I’ve hear Martinez, Rogers, Ollie in recent weeks express to the press we haven’t been at our best this season, it’s plainly obvious. However to be upset about yesterday you might as well take a seat next to that attention seeking Gooner kid in the crowd.
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Rode our luck a bit there last season they had loads of chances first half but were either missed or fine saves , not so this time . On another day Martinez may have kept both of them out .
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At some point we need to be getting the results we were getting last season if we want CL football, yesterday we had an opportunity to do so.
I continue to be concerned that the summer transfer window improved the squad but not the first X1 and last night shows that.
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It's like being fisted with a mango by Ayn Rand.
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At some point we need to be getting the results we were getting last season if we want CL football, yesterday we had an opportunity to do so.
I continue to be concerned that the summer transfer window improved the squad but not the first X1 and last night shows that.
Until we comply with FFP we’re going it really struggle to keep purchasing players of Champions League status. We seem to have reached this position and suddenly our hands are tied.
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At some point we need to be getting the results we were getting last season if we want CL football, yesterday we had an opportunity to do so.
I continue to be concerned that the summer transfer window improved the squad but not the first X1 and last night shows that.
Well in theory we can currently play slightly worse then last season being as last season 4th and 5th were on 43 points at this stage, and currently the same positions are 38 points (or could be 40/38 if Chelsea win tomorrow).
However the squad being deeper could stop the blow-out we had second half of last season and hopefully the additions of Malen etc might improve it to similar levels of play going forward.
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And yet, we are playing as well if not better than this time last season.
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We've taken 4 points from the Emirates in the last 12 months, no other side can match that. We're doing alright.
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It's like being fisted with a mango by Ayn Rand.
Surely fisting is with a fist?
Can you be mangoed?
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Nobody's saying we're playing as well as last season but it's a bit much to.complain about a draw away to a team second in the league.
Coming back from two down.
2-0 down away at Arsenal, who are second in the league and unbeaten at home for a long time and your moaning. I’m pretty sure I’ve hear Martinez, Rogers, Ollie in recent weeks express to the press we haven’t been at our best this season, it’s plainly obvious. However to be upset about yesterday you might as well take a seat next to that attention seeking Gooner kid in the crowd.
I'm not moaning!
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It's like being fisted with a mango by Ayn Rand.
Surely fisting is with a fist?
Can you be mangoed?
You can. It's when someone with discredited beliefs in 20th Century economics holds a mango and fists you. You'd prefer the fist on its own. I'm not taking questions.
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At some point we need to be getting the results we were getting last season if we want CL football, yesterday we had an opportunity to do so.
I continue to be concerned that the summer transfer window improved the squad but not the first X1 and last night shows that.
Until we comply with FFP we’re going it really struggle to keep purchasing players of Champions League status. We seem to have reached this position and suddenly our hands are tied.
I get that and of course transfer dealing is not a perfect science.
Onana and Maatsen let us down last night for different reasons.
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Does Ayn Rand advocate fisting in any of her published works?
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Does Ayn Rand advocate fisting in any of her published works?
Yes. It's her entire philosophy, but it normally relies on barbed wire.
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Atlas Shrugged, as I was fisted by a mango. ☹️
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Our home form has quietly crept back to impressive levels and some of the big guns have all got to come here still . Win the next 4 puts us in the mix and all to play for .
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Ian Wright was giving it a right whinge post match about "the board need to back Arteta now". He seems to have used the budget already given to him in a strange way. Merino and Calafiori are good players but they have lots of options in those positions already. Sterling seems done. Huge money spent on Rice and Havertz the previous summer, Havertz always seemed a bit samey to like of Odegaard.
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Ian Wright was giving it a right whinge post match about "the board need to back Arteta now". He seems to have used the budget already given to him in a strange way. Merino and Calafiori are good players but they have lots of options in those positions already. Sterling seems done. Huge money spent on Rice and Havertz the previous summer, Havertz always seemed a bit samey to like of Odegaard.
Or the manager isn't good enough
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Just looked at the fans video on YouTube and the reaction of Villa fans after the disallowed arsenal goal is a joy to be hold
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Better still Arsenal facing FA punishment for showing replays of Havertz non goal on the big screens in breach of VAR protocols.
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Ian Wright was giving it a right whinge post match about "the board need to back Arteta now". He seems to have used the budget already given to him in a strange way. Merino and Calafiori are good players but they have lots of options in those positions already. Sterling seems done. Huge money spent on Rice and Havertz the previous summer, Havertz always seemed a bit samey to like of Odegaard.
Or the manager isn't good enough
I find him very irritating, but it’s hard to argue he hasn’t done a pretty good job there.
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I didn't see the match yesterday but today watched the first half, expecting it - having read the thread on here - to have been like the Alamo, wave after wave of Arsenal attack, with us doing little in return.
It wasn't like that at all.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?
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Ian Wright was giving it a right whinge post match about "the board need to back Arteta now". He seems to have used the budget already given to him in a strange way. Merino and Calafiori are good players but they have lots of options in those positions already. Sterling seems done. Huge money spent on Rice and Havertz the previous summer, Havertz always seemed a bit samey to like of Odegaard.
Or the manager isn't good enough
I find him very irritating, but it’s hard to argue he hasn’t done a pretty good job there.
has he though?
He's had, what, four or five years, spent a shit load of money, including 100m on one player, and delivered one FA Cup.
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Exactly, they really are not all that without White Saliba Saka Jesus.
We were much better at VP and until we took SJM off looked like we would win.
Sounds like some gang sign. Although not sure why you included Jesus who only scores against Crystal Palace or White who has been out for half a season again as players who they missed and made them poorer. Just seems to denigrate a good result. Almost as bad as when people were stating how well Spurs were doing last season with their injuries, totally missing out we had Mings and Kamara out.
Saliba and Saka would walk into our team - in fact all teams in Europe just about. The other 2 would be squad players here as they are for Arsenal
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Exactly, they really are not all that without White Saliba Saka Jesus.
We were much better at VP and until we took SJM off looked like we would win.
Sounds like some gang sign. Although not sure why you included Jesus who only scores against Crystal Palace or White who has been out for half a season again as players who they missed and made them poorer. Just seems to denigrate a good result. Almost as bad as when people were stating how well Spurs were doing last season with their injuries, totally missing out we had Mings and Kamara out.
Saliba and Saka would walk into our team - in fact all teams in Europe just about. The other 2 would be squad players here as they are for Arsenal
Reading some of their fans' comments on the game yesterday, more than once I saw comments pointing out that we brought on Bailey, Duran and Digne, who would be at the very least challenging for starting spots at Arsenal, whereas they had Raheem Sterling.
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Better still Arsenal facing FA punishment for showing replays of Havertz non goal on the big screens in breach of VAR protocols.
Points deduction surely . Set a precedent.
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Someone was asking on the match thread, when did we last come from 2 goals down against a Sky 6 team?
Well, I was at Highbury for a glorious night in '96 when we did just that. Did we manage to do it again in the 29 years since?...can't remember
If you mean December '96, don't think we were 2-0 down in that game.
He prob means the league cup semi final. The game in the white kit was the following campaign.
He does mean that yes. Not a dissimilar game. We went 2-0 down before we even got going, Berkamp leading us a merry dance IIRC. Then, we woke up, couple of great strikes from Yorkie and Savo, and it was 2-2. The home return was 0-0 over an 120 mins that seemed like 120 hours. I remember Yorke running into a corner towards then end like he just wanted a snooze for 5 mins. The lads barely had enough left to raise their hands in celebration at the end...
Yorke got them both.
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I didn't see the match yesterday but today watched the first half, expecting it - having read the thread on here - to have been like the Alamo, wave after wave of Arsenal attack, with us doing little in return.
It wasn't like that at all.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?
The people at halftime ripping into Bogarde as well seemed strange.
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I didn't see the match yesterday but today watched the first half, expecting it - having read the thread on here - to have been like the Alamo, wave after wave of Arsenal attack, with us doing little in return.
It wasn't like that at all.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?
The people at halftime ripping into Bogarde as well seemed strange.
It was a terrible substitution….when he’d done feck all wrong.
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It’s really good to see Bogarde do well in that role. Keeping things ticking over is a massively underrated skill, and very important.
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I didn't see the match yesterday but today watched the first half, expecting it - having read the thread on here - to have been like the Alamo, wave after wave of Arsenal attack, with us doing little in return.
It wasn't like that at all.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?
The people at halftime ripping into Bogarde as well seemed strange.
The match thread is a strange place. I will avoid it at all costs as all rationality seems to disappear from our supporters. We played well given the plan that Emery implemented. They had more of the ball as you’d expect but we were always a danger. They were expected to win but didn’t because we played well, very well.
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I didn't see the match yesterday but today watched the first half, expecting it - having read the thread on here - to have been like the Alamo, wave after wave of Arsenal attack, with us doing little in return.
It wasn't like that at all.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?
The people at halftime ripping into Bogarde as well seemed strange.
The match thread is a strange place. I will avoid it at all costs as all rationality seems to disappear from our supporters. We played well given the plan that Emery implemented. They had more of the ball as you’d expect but we were always a danger. They were expected to win but didn’t because we played well, very well.
So given our performances over the last 4 matches against them we are more than capable of getting a result. Unfortunately not in this seasons fa cup final 🤣
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I didn't see the match yesterday but today watched the first half, expecting it - having read the thread on here - to have been like the Alamo, wave after wave of Arsenal attack, with us doing little in return.
It wasn't like that at all.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?
The people at halftime ripping into Bogarde as well seemed strange.
The match thread is a strange place. I will avoid it at all costs as all rationality seems to disappear from our supporters. We played well given the plan that Emery implemented. They had more of the ball as you’d expect but we were always a danger. They were expected to win but didn’t because we played well, very well.
Yeah, I know what you mean, and I am not having a pop at the match thread - i get as emotional and irrational as anyone else on there - just making the point, I thought we played very well.
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I never post on the match thread because I always seem to be watching a stream that is a minute behind. However, I take the negative comments as fans who care passionately letting off some steam. It can be incredibly stressful watching us play and it is entirely forgivable that a few people are overcome. The thread should be a safe space for all that to spill out.
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Match thread is just that , we are all kicking each ball and heading the ball away .
Anyone who goes in there retrospectively to dissect and make a point needs to have a word with themselves .
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We all get a little fired up on match threads. I know I have at times. That’s normal. And back in the day in the glory years of Garde and TSM 1&2 it was justified. Yet the level of vitriol now gets a bit much at a time we are the best we have been over most of the past 4 decades. It’s even a little toxic on occasion. We laugh at Man U/Arsenal fans. We’re not them in terms of entitlement but on the path to it without having won anything. I’ve started to stay away the game portion of late because I just wanting to watch the games without the anger. It’s ok to vent but some of it is getting way over the top.
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The best thing I find about the match-threads is that it puts your obsession with Villa in perspective. It's reassuring to know that somewhere out there (Oldbury, probably) someone is going psycho over our "mid-block" and that our passive style is ruining their weekend. Again.
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Has Arteta claimed that it was not handball yet?
Good result for us, we need to ensure that we win this weekend
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Match threads are very much like the Arsenal TV thing (and that fan in the stands) with completely over the top histrionics.
It's fine to be pissed off, and when you're in the stands and you blurt out an expletive (which we've all done) I get it, but you don't blurt out the written word, you have to actually type something out, and surely that takes the moment away?
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I don't really get involved with match threads as I'm unable to multitask.
I wouldn’t anyway as I don't get the abuse.
I accept people vent, but why would I want to read stuff that I wouldn’t want to listen to behind me on a match day at VP?
I also accept that if there were 40,000 of me at a game I'm not sure the atmosphere would be that intimidating as I'm not howling at players or officials!
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I read them after for a laugh.
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I didn't see the match yesterday but today watched the first half, expecting it - having read the thread on here - to have been like the Alamo, wave after wave of Arsenal attack, with us doing little in return.
It wasn't like that at all.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?
The people at halftime ripping into Bogarde as well seemed strange.
Ripping into him? There were plenty thinking it was a strange sub, me included, to throw a player into midfield, away to Arsenal when he’d struggled previously when you could have moved the more experienced Tielemans back there. Don’t think that’s too an ‘out there’ thought.
Turns out he played well, fair play to him and hope it gives him confidence for the rest of the season.
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I didn't see the match yesterday but today watched the first half, expecting it - having read the thread on here - to have been like the Alamo, wave after wave of Arsenal attack, with us doing little in return.
It wasn't like that at all.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?
The people at halftime ripping into Bogarde as well seemed strange.
Ripping into him? There were plenty thinking it was a strange sub, me included, to throw a player into midfield, away to Arsenal when he’d struggled previously when you could have moved the more experienced Tielemans back there. Don’t think that’s too an ‘out there’ thought.
Turns out he played well, fair play to him and hope it gives him confidence for the rest of the season.
so are we going hyperbolic on the hyperbole , is anything rational , I cant cope !!! :-[
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At some point we need to be getting the results we were getting last season if we want CL football, yesterday we had an opportunity to do so.
I continue to be concerned that the summer transfer window improved the squad but not the first X1 and last night shows that.
Until we comply with FFP we’re going it really struggle to keep purchasing players of Champions League status. We seem to have reached this position and suddenly our hands are tied.
I get that and of course transfer dealing is not a perfect science.
Onana and Maatsen let us down last night for different reasons.
Yet in recent games, Onana has scored a winner and Maatsen has set up a winner. You can find positives as well as negatives if you try.
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I saw the clip of the Arsenal fan who was sat in the stands by himself at the end of the game, ranting at the steward, virtually in tears - my wife's comment was "if that is what watching football does to you, I would advise him to get another hobby"
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At some point we need to be getting the results we were getting last season if we want CL football, yesterday we had an opportunity to do so.
I continue to be concerned that the summer transfer window improved the squad but not the first X1 and last night shows that.
Until we comply with FFP we’re going it really struggle to keep purchasing players of Champions League status. We seem to have reached this position and suddenly our hands are tied.
I get that and of course transfer dealing is not a perfect science.
Onana and Maatsen let us down last night for different reasons.
Yet in recent games, Onana has scored a winner and Maatsen has set up a winner. You can find positives as well as negatives if you try.
not against Arsenal they didn't, surprise surprise i was commenting on the match in the err Post Match thread. Keep on sniping KRO
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At some point we need to be getting the results we were getting last season if we want CL football, yesterday we had an opportunity to do so.
I continue to be concerned that the summer transfer window improved the squad but not the first X1 and last night shows that.
Until we comply with FFP we’re going it really struggle to keep purchasing players of Champions League status. We seem to have reached this position and suddenly our hands are tied.
I get that and of course transfer dealing is not a perfect science.
Onana and Maatsen let us down last night for different reasons.
Yet in recent games, Onana has scored a winner and Maatsen has set up a winner. You can find positives as well as negatives if you try.
not against Arsenal they didn't, surprise surprise i was commenting on the match in the err Post Match thread. Keep on sniping KRO
Is there any joy in your life at all?
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Blue Noses don't tend to have a season ticket down Villa. That really is a desperate and quite pathetic comeback.
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Don't worry, I've alerted Interpol.
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Don't worry, I've alerted Interpol.
They have a 'least-wanted' list as well?
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When Im in an obscure country somewhere with no TV , radio and slow internet , the match thred is all I can follow and I love it , the passion , drama and the excitement of fans on here , Nothing wrong with fans getting emotional to me , If theres a Carlos fuck up , yes I might quickly post Carlos ffs , or If its a great goal , I will compliment all the players involved . Just cause Im on edge or getting nervous or whatever , I dont care , I will post on there .
Anyway onto Monaco match thread , cause I aint going .
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Match threads are very much like the Arsenal TV thing (and that fan in the stands) with completely over the top histrionics.
It's fine to be pissed off, and when you're in the stands and you blurt out an expletive (which we've all done) I get it, but you don't blurt out the written word, you have to actually type something out, and surely that takes the moment away?
I will bet that every single match thread for every single team is the same
Why everything is suddenly 'Arsenal' for being reactive is a strange one.
And anyway, it doesn't take long to type
For fucksake Carlos
Ollie being Ollie
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Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!